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johnsobas said:
Imperial said:
Garcian Smith said:
Imperial said:
I don't think the PS3's possibility of achieving first place lies more with Nintendo than it does with Sony.

The Wii has to maintain a certain level of consistency , i'm not sure if Nintendo can rely on the casual market for another 5-7 years.

They've already successfully relied on the "casual market" for almost 4 years now with the DS. What makes you think that that situation will change in the foreseeable future?


 

Firstly using the DS as proof of the Wii's ability to stand the test of time is understandable but at the same time not valid , they are in completley different situations , the DS has something to offer which it's only competitor (the PSP) can't offer .

The Wii only apears to be able to offer the things Nintendo boast it can do , Motion Sensing etc. I think the Wii is more at threat than the DS is because of the strength of the competition they are facing , Sony & M&S are reducing their price points , making their consoles more suitable to the casual market through software and the implementation of new hardware (X-Mote etc).

It would be interesting to see how well the Wii would fare against a similarly priced PS3/XBOX360 with strong casual support , I don't think it would do half as well as it is now but then that could be 4-5 years away.

To be honest I don't know the future of the Wii , if the present is anything to go by then the Wii will do great but because of the nature of their core demographics , I don't think Nintendo should expect Casual support for the next 5-7 years without alot of effort on their part . It seems to me that Nintendo have played all their major cards ( Wii-Fit , SSBB , SMG etc ) it will be interesting to see what they'll do with the rest of the gen.

 

 


And why do you expect all these casuals to jump on board the PS3 all the sudden? The casuals will go to the console winner not the distant 2rd place console. I'm pretty sure Wii has about as big of a casual userbase as the PS3 will ever have in its lifetime, and it's just going to continue to grow and grow. The PS3's library will never compare in casual games and the appeal is simply not there. Sony failed to differentiate themselves and it shows. Just because something gets cheap doesn't mean casuals will buy it at all.


 Have you been inside both Nintendo's and Sony's HQ and looked at their long term stratergies ? , you'd have to to make clames as bold as yours , in actual fact you can't proove anything you said in your post I also don't know how your able to reach many of the conclusions that your so certain of.

 I didn't say all the casuals would "jump to the ps3" I was making a general analysis , as for casuals always going for the Winning console that is absoloute garbage , they go where they're needs are being met the most . Following your logic the PS2 sould be outselling the Nintendo Wii on a weekly basis.

  I think it's widely accepted that one of the PS3's biggest factors determining it's current position is it's Price Point , the PS3 has sold faster than the XBOX 360 ( keeping in mind the differences in launch date) and I'd pretty much bet my life that the Wii wouldn't be as far ahead as it is now if the PS3 had been releasd with a £170 price point , the casuals do infact buy a console because it is cheap the Wii prooves it.