NX power

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potato_hamster said:

Actually of those 157 million + sellers, over 40 of them are Nintendo games. That leaves about 120 million+ sellers in over 2500 third party games tracked for the Wii. Your numbers suggest that approximately every 1 in 20 third party games sold over 1 million.  Meanwhile, taking the PS3 as an example, there were about 200 million+ sellers in about 2600 third party tracked games.. That's about  1 in 13, meaning publishers had a 35% better chance at selling 1 million+ game on a console that sold 20% less world-wide. Those aren't good numbers for Nintendo.

On top of that, the reason I keep being up PS4 and X1 is because third parties tend to exclusively make multi-platform games, because adding platforms to games is cheaper than making an entirely new game per platform. I mean this is obvious, right? If you think it's a hard sell to convince developers to port their PS4/X1 game over to the NX it will be an even harder sell to convince them to make an NX standalone title. Sure it'll be cheaper for a developer to make an NX game than it would be to make a Wii U/3DS game, that is obvious. However how many third party developers are actually just making a game for Wii U or just making a game for 3DS? Not too many. 

You're right. Nintendo doesn't need to beat Apple and Google. They could carve up their own piece of the pie. But unlike Sony and MS, Apple and Google can afford to, and have demonstrated an ability to intentionally lose millions of dollars on a product/service just to drive a competitior out of the market. Anything that Nintendo does, Apple and Google can undercut them on price. Sony can't afford to do that. MS won't afford to that. Apple on the otherhand? If they want the Nintendo equivalent of the iPod touch to fail, it will fail.

At the end of the day, you still fail to understand - this unfied console only works for two groups - Nintendo and its dwindling fan base. So they're going to create a Nintendo discount club? Fantastic. So Nintendo gets less money out of the people that were going to buy all of their stuff anyways. Tell me why the NX is going to convince someone like me (who has owned every major Nintendo console outside of the Virtual Boy, Wii U and 3DS, and has given up on Nintendo) to buy it? Or, 2why is a 40 year old mother of a 10 year old going to choose not to buy thier kid an iPod touch with thousands of free games, and thousands more for less than $5, but a Nintendo NX with $40 games, and probably some type of cartridge system instead? Because their kid can now pop that cartridge in an entirely separate console on the TV? That sounds pretty similar to the apple TV, and I bet the apple tv will be cheaper than the NX home.

Nintendo is making this console that will appeal exclusively to Nintendo fans, and compel Nintendo fans to spend more money on Nintendo products. That's it. Unfortunately Nintendo fans are a dying breed.

Ya that's what I said, over 2/3 of the million sellers on Wii were 3rd party titles. It seems like ur trying to turn this into a cock fight, PS3 having more 3rd party million sellers is irrelevant, u said 3rd parties weren't successful on Wii and u were wrong so just move on.

Wait, I thought it wouldnt be cost effective to make a game for both variants of NX but not it's somehow more cost effective to make mutliplatform titles? See how ur kinda backtracking? But anyway, many 3rd parties still support Nintendo platforms, 3DS gets solid Japanese 3rd party support while both devices get their fair share of kid/family/casual friendly titles and indie support for Nintendo has been increasing. Individually 3DS/Wii U software output could be considered lackluster (Wii U more so than 3DS) but when combined they never face any droughts and that's the type of thing we could see with a unified ecosystem.

If it were really so simple to destroy a competitor through money than Microsoft would be dominating the console market now, they have invested and lost billions in an attempt to make the Xbox brand dominant. By ur logic Apple could just enter any market they want and eliminate any potential threats because they have the most money. Why are their still dozens of smartphone, tablet, PC, set-top box manufacturers, shouldn't Apple have knocked them all out of the market by now? No, because it's not that simple.

The new program only benefits Nintendo and the people who own Nintendo devices? Well no shit. That's like saying Xbox Live/Playstation Plus only benefit Microsoft/Sony and the people who own their devices. They are services that increase the value of a product. Also a few things to take into account, Iwata stated the service could include a referral program, the service will also include be compatible with mobile devices, and that the prime objective of their mobile initiatives is to act as marketing for their dedicated devices. So based on those three things, don't be surprised to see something like this, download Pokémon GO on ur mobile device and receive a discount on Pokémon NX, share and play Pokémon GO with X amount of friends and receive a further discount. Apply this to say 10 games, is this person more likely to buy a dedicated Nintendo device knowing that they have 10 games they can get at a sizable discount?

As for why would a parent buy such devices for their kids, maybe because said kids want such devices? That's where the IP licensing through things like theme park attractions and films/series fit in. Let's say a family goes to see the new animated film in theaters based on a Nintendo property or the family goes to Universal Studios on vacation and they visit the Nintendo section. Is it possible that kids who experience these things may want to play the games based on them? That doesn't sound farfetched at all.

Nintendo fans aren't a set group of people who all share the same opinions/tastes in games. Nintendo has a wide variety of IP that span multiple genres, not everybody who owns Nintendo hardware or likes certain Nintendo IP are "Nintendo fans", they are simply fans of that peticular hardware or those specific IP. A fan of Zelda isn't necessarily a Nintendo fan just like a Grand Theft Auto fan isn't necessarily a Rockstar fan. A fan of Fire Emblem may not be a fan of Kirby or a fan of Metroid may not be a fan of Donkey Kong, so to block all these people into a single group is illogical.