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bigtakilla said:
Miyamotoo said:
bigtakilla said:
SJReiter said:
So the issue I've always had with this theory is that it would mean either the game releases in 2017, or NX launches in 2016. I always assumed (and still do) that NX would launch in 2017, so if Zelda U launches in 2016 it wouldn't really make much sense to port it. For Twilight Princess, it came out for the GameCube just a couple weeks after releasing for the Wii. If Zelda U comes out for NX a year after launching on the Wii U, I don't really see what the point would be, and hence believe it to be unlikely.

Then from a business stand point, why don't they make a 3D mario game in the vein of Galaxy and and make that multigen? It seems they would make a LOOOOOOOOOT (I mean it is honestly not even remotely close) more money that way. We can pretty much assume one of those is in the works too.

Big difference is that for 3D Mario game they need around 2 years to development but for Zelda they need almost twice of that time, so much more development time and resources than Mario game, so from that standpoint Zelda is good choice for porting, especially if installed base is low like Wii Us.

New 3D Mario is almost certain for NX launch, but next Zelda after Zelda U will probably come around 2019, Nintendo can easily make another 3D Mario game before another Zelda come.

Still, strictly business speaking Mario games net over twice the profit and cost less than half to make. Porting a Mario game would earn you much more profit than porting a Zelda game. 

 

bigtakilla said:
archbrix said:

Zelda U has been rumored to be the biggest, most ambitious title from Nintendo yet regarding budget and manpower; I'd be very surprised if it wasn't an NX launch title.  And I think it's definitely their best move as long as WiiU still gets the game as promised.

Why wouldn't porting New Super Mario Wii U be a better move? It hystorically sells more copies per console than LoZ per same console in every single occassion.

 

bigtakilla said:
Scisca said:


I think there's a difference that some games benefit greatly from the install base without really driving hardware sales (2D Mario games) , while other games benefit less, but are capable of moving a big number of hardware units that games like 2D Mario can't move (Zelda, Metroid).

I honestly doubt there's many people out there that will go like "OMG, a 2D Mario, I have to buy this console". But people will buy a 2D Mario if they already have the console. On the other hand a Zelda or Metroid is a game that many people may consider getting a console for. And then they'll get that 2D Mario

I don't think 2D Mario is capable of driving hardware adoption the way a Mario Kart, Zelda, Metroid or Smash can.

But NSMBU was pretty much the only reason to get a Wii U early on (especially if we are talking about 1st party games) and sold better and moved more hardware than WWHD. I mean a port is a port right? Windwaker was open world, it is one of the only 1080p games on Wii U, It has an AMAZING art style that is new and can only be refered to as "toon link" art style, and so few people had the GC AND bought the game (4.6 mil) that you think it would push some sales.... But it didn't.

 

 

bigtakilla said:
archbrix said:

I'm going with the assumption that NX's launch will coincide with the launch of WiiU's Zelda, very similar to TP.  Under those conditions, the debut of a brand new Zelda on Nintendo's brand new system would be huge, despite the game also being available on WiiU.  

By comparison, a port of NSMBU would do almost nothing to drive the launch of NX, but I'd fully expect it and plenty of other WiiU games to arrive digitally on NX eventually.


But it would be a port, which would obviously not even showcase the NX's power. 

NSMBU helped push Wii U sales the first year of the Wii U's life, and it's first year sales were actually pretty good. Add to it the fact that NSMBU and NSLuigiU combined far outsold any LoZ and port (or remake) with the exception of Ocarina Of Time (best selling of the franchise again since the 3ds entry) it should paint a pretty clear picture. It we are going by financial success, LoZ is not the best route they could take (looking at numbers).

You cant compare launch of NSMBU port game that is basically NSMB HD from Wii that will be old 4 year next year, and launch of completely new game that will be first HD, real open and most ambitious Zelda to date. NSMBU port probably wouldn't move any consoles, but Zelda in this case would move tons a consoles.

Also NSMBU was terrible Wii U launch title, it was basically NSMB HD for Wii, I am pretty sure that only small number of people buy console for that game alone.