| Skullwaker said: That doesn't make sense. Third versions are never clumped together with their original games. That's not the case with Monster Hunter, YW or mainline Pokemon so it doesn't make sense here. And yeah, the 3DS install base is bigger but Gates to Infinity launched on the system when there were no RPG Pokemon games at all (mainline or otherwise), and less games in general. It simply had less competition. And Pokemon is still number 1 on Nintendo handhelds. By far, even. Here are the top 10 best selling games on the 3DS in Japan, as of August 2015: 01. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) – 4.472.004 Yes, Pokemon spinoffs are no longer as massive as they used to be (which makes sense, because it's not the "hot new thing" anymore, and hasn't been for a long time), but in reality, it's still the most successful game series on the platform. X/Y are the best selling games, and I wouldn't be surprised to see ORAS over 3m LT. The thing is that YW during this time is at its peak. Actually, I'd say it's past the peak considering there have been reports of it fading in popularity in Japan. So, let's just say that its peak is the 3.15m sales set by Ganso/Honke. That didn't beat X/Y, which is like the 13th game in the series, and it barely beat ORAS, which is a remake. I'd hardly say that it's "crippled" Pokemon, especially when Black/White sold about 15.6m and X/Y will likely end around there, and that was way before Yokai Watch on the massively popular DS. But yes, it's more prevalent currently in popular culture so obviously its fresh, new spinoffs are going to sell more than Pokemon's spinoffs which have been around for ages. Furthermore, Monster Hunter is a completely different market than both Pokemon and Yokai. It appeals to different people in general. And its sales are still significantly lower than Pokemon. There haven't really been any spinoffs of that franchise on the 3DS (except that remaster of the PSP game which sold <100k) so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make there. Dragon Quest remakes sell, yes. Less than Pokemon remakes still. The deal with Animal Crossing is that Happy Home Designer is still only the second game of that brand on the 3DS, whereas Pokemon has had about a million at this point. It's also essentially the same genre, just more focused on a single task, while Mystery Dungeon is vastly different than typical Pokemon. I'd say that HHD appeals to more casual players while people who picked up SMD were more core fans of either series. I'd say that 500k for SMD is very likely, especially since there isn't a mainline Pokemon this year and the game should have better word of mouth than Gates. I fail to see how the launch is in any way a flop, or how in the 400-500k range would be a flop. But I guess I have to agree to disagree with many here. |
Third, enhanced versions whatever such a game is called, I think it makes sense these games are not usually expected to sell aswell as originals. Simply because they are not completely new games which means the majority of people who bought the originals are not very likely to buy the new version. That's why I think it is not fair to do 1:1 comparison against Explorers of Sky. Like comparing (future) YW3 to YW2: Shinuchi, I don't think it is the right comparison to be made.
Pokemon is number 1 looking at the longevity of success alone but like I said it's position has weakened not crippled. YW3 is a serious threat and the series could at least temporarily (for a few years) take the number spot, however that does not mean anything in the long run against a proven colossus like Pokemon. But YW is a legit threat. I think YWB is showing the series is still growing and has proven spin-offs can sell which gives perspective to Super Mystery Dungeon FW sales.
Yes, Monster Hunter attracts different audience but not 100%. My point was, MH4 selling 3,5m, it is not very farfetched to think it could have eaten a small amount of Pokemon sales. The same with YW and when you combine both it can easily make 400-500k difference (I'm making these numbers but you get the point).
I'm not putting DQ and AC against Pokemon. Just saying 3DS has had 3 big sellers in a relatively short timespan. People who bought any of those 3 titles recently are not very likely to buy Super Mystery Dungeon. In this sense, I feel MHX has the perfect timing.
I just threw 500k for starters, anything less is not good in my mind. It's still over 3xFW sales and the burden is now completely on having good legs. But, never count out a Pokemon game.
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