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Soundwave on 24 September 2015
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spemanig said:
Soundwave said:

Most people can't reeeeeally tell screen resolution. As long as you use a decent quality screen, which nowadays is cheap (thanks Apple). 

A Vita screen looks as good as some 1080P displays to the average joe. As long as it looks "nice and shiny" they will think it's a high resolution. And a chip that powerful could legitimately run Wii U+ visuals at full 1080x720 too. A good 1280x720 panel will have a nice pixel density at 6.5 inches or lower and most people won't notice the games that are running sub-native resolution. I have an 8-inch Samsung 1280x720 res tablet and HD content still looks great on it.

Almost no iPad/iPhone games run at native resolution either, nobody really notices. People will notice the graphics are really impressive though and that the engines are the same next-gen engines on their modern consoles. 

I don't think they're using dual screen, but I'm not going over that again, I think we've done that to death. I think in general NX will be a complete break from the Wii-DS era. It was fun while it lasted, but very bitter at the end probably by Nintendo's standards and all these cycles eventually come to an end. 

To be honest I wouldn't be shocked if NX is more radical than even what I'm proposing. I think Nintendo internally is going through some radical upheaval. For example I don't think Mr. Miyamoto and some of the older guard were too happy about the smartphone change, but they got voted down by internal pressure. That really does explain his sour comments towards casuals a few months ago, because he knows he ultimately failed to keep that audience for Nintendo. 


I think you're vastly overexadurating how stupid people are.

They can't tell the difference between a 2016 high end tablet clearly marketed with a 1080p screen and a gaming tablet marketed with a 540p screen? You're literally saying that people are too stupid to read what's on a box. The Wii U gets a ton of shit for being too weak, and that system can still play games at 1080p 60fps, but a tablet with a big fat 540p screen in 2016 will go unnoticed and "99% of people won't tell the difference?" Give me a break. People already complain that the Wii U's gamepad picture qualitly is ugly as shit, and that streams games far more demanding than anything on smartphones or the Vita at the same 540p resolution.

I think the NX will be a break from the Wii-DS, in firmware. In hardware, no. It'll be an iterative upgrade. No tablet. No portable console. And there's definitely internal change happening. But not the sort that'll produce a gaming tablet to replace a dual screen handheld that's part of a unified platform meant to share games seamlessly when the home console is still dual screened.

The quality of the screen makes a huge difference. A Vita screen (even the new models) and the Wii U tablet are very close in resolution from a technical sense, but you put them side by side and it's a laughable difference, clearly Nintendo is using really poor quality screens. 

I'd advocate more for a 1280x720 display. That is a nice pixel density for a 6-6.5 inch panel.

If a developer wants to port a game that's a next-gen engine because they want to cash in on the portable userbase that Nintendo actually has, like say Square-Enix wants Dragon Quest XI or Kingdom Hearts III on the portable, then I think it's OK in those cases for them to "cheat" a little go with a non-native resolution like 960x540. Most people won't notice and even if they do it's not enough of a difference to really have a stick up your bum about, because you can't exactly put your PS4 in your coat pocket. 

If you want to put a game like Mario Maker or even Mario 3D World (or in that range of visual fidelity), something like that could run at the native 1280x720 screen res. There's no device comparable to that on the market, so it's not like people will have anything to compare it to since Sony is likely bowing out of the handheld market. 

I think NX will be radically different, even moreso than maybe what I can come up with. Like for example I don't think there will be only 2 form factors. I think eventually there could even be like 5 or 6 different NX models. That's going to change. I just feel Nintendo is shifting massively internally and that will reflect on the products they make. But again I don't really care enough about that particular discussion to really argue about it again and again, that's just my read I've been following the company since the early 90s. 

Nintendo fans can kinda be violently opposed to changes at times too, so that's nothing new, I've seen that movie before maaaany times. Forget the "lets cancel Metroid Federation Force!" and "Celda" meltdowns. I remember before we knew exactly what the Revolution/Wii was, Perrin Kaplan (then of NOA) made a statement in an interview where she said the Revolution was only going to be 3x the horsepower of the GameCube, and the Nintendo fanbase at the time online erupted in rage. "That stupid b**ch! She doesn't know what she's talking about! Nintendo would never make a system that's so far behind Sony and Microsoft! They'll never just recycle the GameCube!". It's kinda embarassing to think back about it now, but they couldn't really at that time fathom the concept behind the Wii, all they knew was what Nintendo had done in the past to that point.