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Nautilus said:
Soundwave said:

They're probably screwed either way, but 2017 ... forget even talking about Sony. Sony will be laughing at the finish line. 

Even catching Microsoft is basically a non-starter. 

If it is a traditional console, then it's basically gaurunteed third place. And a distant third place at that, it won't be even close like the GameCube third place was. 

Fall 2017 November, you're probably talking

PS4 - 60+ million, 1200+ titles

XBox One - 30+ million, 1200+ titles

NX - 0 userbase, 10-15 launch titles

I'm sorry but there's no amount of spin in the world that can convince me this is some kind of sane, sound strategy.  

Well, Nintendo did prove us with the Wii for example,That it can pull off a miracle once in a while, but yeah, i agree with you that it is an uphill battle, to say the very least.

Every console Nintendo released has done worse than the last except for the Wii and that's only because it captured the casual market who doesn't even play games.  Nintendo isn't going to do well just because an amazing stroke of luck, they need people out there who will purchase their product, and there are really very few parties out there who are interested unless they do something unique.

If it's not a hybrid console, Nintendo is going to be third place no matter what.  Releasing in 2016 or 2017 is what will determine how far back they'll actually be.  Will they sell as bad as the Gamecube, the Wii U, or worse? 

What Nintendo should do is start releasing exclusives on the New 3DS and force 3DS owners to upgrade to that console if they want to play these new games to sell atleast 20-30 million more(I'd certainly like to own more than just Xenoblade Chronicles.)  Push an exclusive on the Wii U here and there for the next couple years.  Then announce their new console first, something twice as powerful as the PS4 for the same price or less than the PS4 cost at launch.  Launch this new console when the PS4 hasn't even been five years on the market so the new Nintendo console will have atleast two years to themselves as the only next gen console on the market.  Nintendo would be selling to those who want the better performing and maybe better looking game with multi console releases, and maybe console exclusives that look better than the PS4s best looking games while also performing better.  Being the sole console out there with the most powerful specs might still not get it much exclusive third party support, but it'll get Nintendo console sales for years before the other two launch their next console, and then Nintendo atleast has a large userbase and has the chance of gaining more support and more sales through that.  I'd like to see them keep the gamepad too since it can be a unique feature, and by that time it should cost little to manufacture.