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Soundwave on 18 September 2015
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Nuvendil said:
Soundwave said:


Nintendo was badly outmarketed by Sony in the N64/Playstation days (Hey Plumber Boy, FF7's marketing, etc. etc.) and Sega completely dominated them during the Genesis days. That was really how Nintendo got any competetition in the first place ... Sega started marketing towards the MTV/teenager crowd, while Nintendo was still using as you put it, the lame "Now you're playing with SUPER Power" stuff, which was just recycled from the NES days. 

Sega was vicious, lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDpTLY6dpXQ

Nintendo's sucked at marketing for the better part of 20 years now. It's just not how their products sell, their products tend to sell through strong word of mouth. 

Case in point, I don't even remember seeing a TV ad for GoldenEye 007 on the N64, yet that sold through the roof. 

Being out marketed=/=sucked.  GameCube marketing sucked.  Wii U marketing sucked.  N64 (the early campaign, when the legs game out the ads dried up too) was  strong and SNES was good.  Even if you are out marketed, putting out a good effort gets you better results than sucking or doing nothing.  Mirosoft is being out marketed as all crap right now, but they are still getting better results than Nintendo who just plain sucked until fairly recently (and still aren't prolific).

But the point you completely missed was that REGARDLESS of what they were like and are like in marketing, they must get good.  Period.  End of story.  The NX could literally be a legal money printing device with two PS4s inside and it will not sell if they have a launch campaign like the Wii U's or the Wii U's 2013 holiday marketing.  The NX will fail, the successor to it will fail, they will all fail if their answer to MS and Sony's aggressive marketing is to do next to nothing.  Cause that's just business.


Truthfully I think we're well past all that now. As in like 10 years past it. Nintendo's lost that type of audience to Sony and Microsoft full stop, they *own* that audience now, and that audience is not looking for Nintendo to just give them the same thing. If they want a Playstation (which is synomous for violent third party action-adventure games + sports titles) ... they'll buy a Playstation. 

Nintendo *needed* the GameCube to at least hold fort and badly spank the XBox to hold that audience, it failed to do so, then they went off and did the Wii for 6 years which basically just completely ignored that audience entirely. 

Now? It's far too late. They needed to have their shit together like back in 2002/2003. That was when it was still an open contest to some extent.