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Miyamotoo on 17 September 2015
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midrange said:
Miyamotoo said:
midrange said:

(1) read my initial point. I said the wii u may have games that do well, but the grand majority who will buy them probably already have a wii u. Mario, pokemon, pikmin, starfox, zelda, those are all games that are most appreciated by Nintendo fans, who probably already have the system. They may move a small amount of hardware units, but nothing really significant. 

The only Non-Nintendo like games coming out are fatal frame and xenoblade X. And while they may end up as good games, no jrpg fans or horror fan will buy a wii u just to play 1 game in their favorite genre. Currently there are 0 other compelling exclusive horror games and jrpg games on the wii u.

 

(2) Power is a most certainly a problem when it comes to perception of a product. Correlation =/= Causation. In other words, Vita has other reasons why it is not selling well, but power is not one of them. The wii u on the other hand is constantly labeled as alast gen console, which is a huge problem, and guess what ... that is a power problem.

 

(3) Yes it does seem like they are rushing the new console. Nintendo consoles seem to only last 5 years a generation when they are not leading. Otherwise they are replaced in 6-7 years. Also, the biggest indicator of their rush is that they may transition before the generation is over. When they throw out the NX, is it still gonna be 9th gen despite it playing against ps4 and xbox one? Why haven't we heard a single shred of details about a ps5 or an xbox two? It seems pretty obvious that Nintendo wants this gen to end, and if indications are correct and they  release the NX next year, they will have effectively rushed out a new console before the gen is over.

(1) Yes, we already have Mario and Pikmin on WIi U, but we dont have Pokkemon Fighter, Star Fox, new Zelda (not HD port), Fatal Frame and Xenoblade X, those game will certanly move some consoles.

(2) Dont agree. DS was selling much better than PSP despite was weaker than PSP, dont need to mentioned Wii, 3DS is selling great being in era of smartphones and tablets despite is very weak. Guess what, Wii was also constantly labeled as alast gen console and that wasnt problem when we know Wii sale numbers.

(3) Incorrect, only NES and Wii had life span of 6 years, all other Nintendo home consoles had life span of 5 years, there no single console with life span of 7 years. No that is not indicator, because last gen was longest home console generation ever, PS3 had life span of 7 years and Xbox 360 life span of 8 years and we know that Nintendo home console have life span of around 5 years, thats why they released Wii U before PS4/XboxOne (much better decision would be if they released console in 2011. not 2012.), so it is expected to again release new home console again before PS5/Xbox One. If new Nintendo home console arrive next year, Wii U will have life span of 4 years instead of usual 5 years cycle for Nintendo console, but I dont think in that case new console would rushed, it just means that Wii U has little shorter life span than usual.

(1) aside from fatal frame and xenoblade (which I already addressed), there are only Nintendo like games coming out (aimed at being family friendly with a cartoonish appeal). Once again that audience is most likely already on the wii u. It may move consoles, but most certainly not a significant amount.

(2) Are you kidding me? The wii was labeled last gen by many many people especially towards the end of the last gen. With regards to sales it showed dramatically as the wii had a huge drop off and the ps3 and xbox 360 rose to popularity.

Power is huge. While it may not be a huge factor near the start of a gen (since people still need to figure out the tech), it is a necessity near the end of a generation in order to continue producing the most impressive games. Put it this way. Next year, vita still has the potential to produce games on par with the 3ds. Wii u simply won't be able to match ps4 and xbox one games.

(3) So you are telling me that the wii u having the shortest life span, 4 years, while having the worst sales (aside from virtual boy) is a coincidence?

(1)You have some people that only love Star Fox or Pokemon from Nintendo games so they didn't buy Wii U because they didn't have reason, this espacily goes for Zelda, this espacily goes for Zelda, you have tons a people that only love Zelda and buy console only for Zelda (and yes some of them already played Zelda WW and didn't want to buy Wii U because just that game). Also you have some people that are on edge to buy Wii U, they just need right exclusive (games that I already mentioned) to push them over the edge or price cut.

(2) I said Wii was labeled like last gen by many many people, but that didn't stopped Wii to sell 100m and to be best selling console of that gen, so no, power isn't a problem. Wii had a huge drop in sales because Nintendo stopped to supported and Wii owners go to different platforms, and I already said that Wii U needed to launch earlier.

(3) If NX will launch next year and Wii U have life span of 4 years, I dont think that would be coincidence (obviously is because of bad sales), but like I said, I dont think in that case new console would rushed, it just means that Wii U has little shorter life span than usual. But truth is that we still dont know what is NX, Nintendo said that NX isnt simply replacment for 3DS or Wii U.