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Soundwave on 12 September 2015
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KBG29 said:
Soundwave said:


What's wrong with getting a source for actual numbers? You guys are saying Apple TV is a niche device, yet it's already selling 6-7 million/year even before this new model, that's way ahead of the Wii U and on par with the XBox One already. That's just a fact. If you don't like it, get angry at uh ... the facts. 

Apple isn't rich anymore. They were rich 10 years ago. What they are now is so far beyond that, they are quite likely the most profitable business in the world outside of the major banks. They could start their own country and that country would be wealthier than like 3/4ths of the nation states on the planet. 

They have the best marketing of any company too. If Apple really wanted to make a console, I think you're kidding yourself too if you don't think every third party and their grandma wouldn't jump to support it. Look at how much support the iOS ecosystem is getting without Apple even lifting a finger to try. If they had a board meeting and said "gaming is now our big priority, do everything to win the gaming market", of course they could be competetive. 

Nintendo and MS right now are just shitting the bed as is in the console market and would be easy targets, Sony would be a little tougher, but Sony is like a pitbull with no teeth when you remove the third party advantage from them and outmarket them ... all bark, no bite. 

At least one person is looking at this for what it is. Yeah, this doesn't compete head on with consoles, but smartphones never competed with handhelds either, and look what happened. I am with you on this one Soundwave. Apple may not be not be going right at PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendo, but they sure as hell are coming in at a 45' angle. 

If Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo don't react, and gamers keep on insisting PS4/XBO/WiiU are just for games history will repeat itself. Apple will win over too big of a market, and the casual crowd will abandon the traditional game console and AAA market. Once they Score Call of Duty, Madden, Fifa, GTA, and the likes, the "I only game on my consoles/handhelds" crowd will have killed another gaming platform.  

If people honestly think that the very potential future where you can get everything available on iOS + traditional console/PC 3rd party games is not a threat to PS4 and XBO, I don't even know what planet they live on anymore. 

Gamers need to realise this. If you don't start taking your gaming devices serious, and using them to browse the web, buy and stream digital content, make phone calls, check e-mail, and all the other stuff everyone has flocked to phones for, then all of this is going to go away. 3rd parties are not going to support a PlayStation, Xbox, or Nintendo product if it can't sell 10M units. Look at what happened already, and choose wisely. Stick with iOS and Android for everything outside of gaming, and you are asking for a future of free to play, pay to win, and money sucking streamed games.

Mind you I'm not saying "consolez r doomed" either lol. 

I'm just responding to the idea that this is some niche device ... it's not. It already sells on par with the XBox One and way ahead of the Wii U. So if this is a niche product, then so are 2/3 of the home consoles. 

That and the idea that Apple some how fears Sony/MS/Nintendo ... that I seriously, seriously doubt. Apple just doesn't care about them. 

AppleTV is obviously not trying to compete head on with the Playstation/XBox. So people can lower their defence force shields a bit. That said, it's not terribly difficult to see where future revisions of this product could go. The A8 processor is alright, but an A9X or a future A10 processor would likely let an AppleTV run extremely high end games, and if they open up to more Bluetooth controller support then basically you'll be able to use any controller you feel like.