This is the Problem(Main) of the Wii U

[Miyamotoo]

Soundwave said:

Miyamotoo said:

This also applies to parents who buying consoles for their kids, and they are much bigger buyers of Nintendo consoles than casuals.

I don't think so, kids are just as likely to want a Playstation or XBox from my experience as a Nintendo console (probably moreso once they get into junior high school and everything becomes about being "cool"). Casuals are what drove the usual 20 million-ish Nintendo fanbase up to 100 million. 

Remove them, and the Wii U is basically right back to where Nintendo was with the GameCube. 

Same with 3DS, it's back down to where the GBA was more or less. 

This indicates either a hell of a coincidence or Nintendo just lost that audience pretty much. Which isn't a surprise, all those people playing smartphone games didn't just pop out of nowhere. 

Not every parents buy to kids console that kids wants, especially when we are talking about younger kids which parents don't want to play violent games.

Nintendo had 20 million-is Nintendo fan base only with GameCube and that because PS2 was most popular console of all times.

Yes, casual drove Wii to 100m, but parents that buying console to kids were always big part of Nintendo console buyers, even on Wii U.

My point is that with just different and better marketing and name, Wii U would be at least on pair with GC numbers, and with better launch titles and more affordable price, at least on pair with N64 numbers.