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Miyamotoo said:
Arlo said:
Someone please paint me a picture of a consumer who doesn't want the Wii U because all they know is the controller, and would suddenly want it because they saw more of the console itself. Because I'm starting to see this as a sort of straw man argument. The type of consumer who is really that clueless already doesn't want it. If they're not drawn in by the controller concept (or, you know, the games on the system), then how is anything else going to help?

I agree that this a *a* problem with the Wii U, but it's not *the* problem. The biggest problem is that people just don't want the games on it enough to buy it. But that's not something that a lot of people want to accept.
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Have any of you guys acutally played the system with casuals? I have casual gaming type friends that are over all the time. 

I explained the Wii U to them. Demoed it for them. We played Nintendo Land and Mario Kart 8 for a good 2 hours. So there's no way there could be any confusion.

They enjoyed it even.

Yet of like 8 or 9 different friends (casuals) I've done this with ... *zero* have gone on afterwards to purchase the system themselves, even though all but one of them own a Wii. 

There's a bigger problem here than just the marketing and name (though neither are great ... but what's so great about names like iPhone 6S or Surface 3 or Galaxy S5). 

3DS sounds a lot like DS, it looks like the same thing too, yet Nintendo has sold a reasonable 54 million of those and the marketing for the 3DS is just as bad, maybe even worse than the Wii U.