By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
DerNebel on 02 September 2015
Edit Thread
Wyrdness said:
DerNebel said:

No the reason you're ignoring some of my stuff is because it doesn't fit your agenda that is so ridiculously unsupported already that it's completely laughable anyway, even the things you're responding to are completely missing the mark. The funny is that what you call "laughable" on my part is largely standard in the games industry, it is completely accepted and even wanted by the companies.

I mean seriously? You can't fathom that a hugely popular Youtuber can be better at selling a game than intended marketing? Are you so narrow-minded that you can't understand that professional marketing can completely miss the mark or that a company simply much rather uses Youtubers cause for them it's a much cheaper method of marketing? And do you know that word of mouth can ridiculously be fueled by a huge youtuber? Do you think kids didn't tell their friends how funny or whatever Skate 3 is after seeing Pewdiepie play it and that that was exactly what led to said word of mouth? Do you think the exact same thing didn't happen with something like Slenderman? Do you think companies like MS and EA and probably a lot more actually pay for people to make youtube videos of their games for shits and giggles? Have you ever wondered why there's such a huge focus on streaming with the PS4?

But hey I'm sure that armchair marketing genius Wyrdness knows better than all those companies.

 

The's no agenda I'm just telling you straight up you're going off on tangents that are irrelevant.

Nope not that I don't fathom YT having potential to help I just don't buy the constant marketing argument BS everyone throws around to try and defend the entitlement of using someone else's product/work to make money. You presented one article that does nothing else then make a claim as your back up, did the people who bought the games all say yeah I'm buying this because of YT? Fact is the advertisement claim is BS because at the end of the day if it was just that these clowns would be doing it for free no problems and amongst your claims you have nothing to prove the correlation of video views directly into sales but a claim with no real back up.

Word of mouth has been around for a lot longer then YT which is why I don't fully buy the whole argument either, if anything YT may not be making any difference at all and the effect of word of mouth may still be the same as any other period, you don't want to acknowledge this and many other factors because it is you yourself who has an agenda as your whole argument is built on the marketing argument BS. Funny you mentioned MS using this as marketing and they're getting destroyed by the PS4, but don't worry marketing prodigy Der Nebel says it rock solid.

No I did not only present only one article, I presented one article and several other games as examples which apparently simply didn't fit your agenda. And I can't help you if you aren't willing to use the slightest bit of logic here and see the connection between the uptake of a certain game by a huge Youtuber and a spike in its demand.

Also what in the world is the bolded even supposed to mean, since when is advertisement done for free?

And how about instead of talking about me giving proof for something that should be deductable via logic, how about you give me proof for the sales to billboard view correlation that you apparently simply lying around?

Finally let me try a little mind experiment here: What do you think is better word of mouth?

1. Someone telling his 10 friends about this awesome game he's been playing

2. A person on Youtube with 30mil+ subscriber base telling that base about this awesome game he's playing and showing them this game?

Don't rush your answer, really think about this.

Yup, they are getting destroyed by the PS4, which is also using Youtube as a promotion platform as well as Youtubers. What about EA? Is the biggest third party publisher in the world also getting destroyed?