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Wyrdness on 23 August 2015
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twintail said:

 

Wyrdness said:
PSP was announced before the DS in fact it's long been considered the DS was a reaction to it, GBA was going to be cut short no matter what as a strong competitior was now on the way. DS launched a month before the PSP and that was in one region, NA, while the PSP launched in Japan, so it was both devices that impacted the GBA, the PSP for the first 7 or so months when released in NA was outselling the DS in the US.

The only way the 3DS would have got a successor as fast as the GBA is if the 3DS had performed badly, worse then the Wii U has, that's the context behind both the GBA and the 3DS, one performed with no competition and was cut short when competition turned up while the other has performed with competition. Believe me if Nintendo thought the GBA was going to be fine and sell loads more when the PSP was launched they would not have brought out the DS as quickly as they did if at all, PSP is what ended the GBA's run not the DS.

Sorry but you refusing to accept this very site that you're on as a source is not my problem and doesn't put any requirement on me, software sales declined from 2009 onwards the years when the homebrew scene really exploded mind you with only games like MH carrying the platform after that year.

Soundwave pretty much hit the point on the head as it's more likely the portable side benefits more from sharing the library, Smash bros had a bigger impact on 3DS then Wii U as did 3D Mario while MK had an equal effect on both portable and home console. What the console side of things is going to benefit from is more the third party titiles put on the portable as that would help deal with droughts.

 

I know why the DS was possibly announced but blaming GBA sales decline on the PSP makes no sense. DS was the GBA successor (which alone means GBA was going to delcine) and it it launched in both US and JPN before the PSP even saw its first release. Combined with the new ways to play games (including GBA) along with the usual appeal that comes with successor hardware, what appeal did the GBA exactly have at the point? None, besides the price. 

Combined, sure the PSP and DS together would have hurt the GBA but there is a first mover for everything, and the first mover for GBA decline was the release of the DS since it would have been competing for sales against the GBA before the PSP arrived. Blaming this on the PSP is silly since it was ultimately Nintendo's own decisions that hurt the GBA. Just because they reacted to other happenings doesnt change that they made moves to bring a new handheld to the market.

Technically it is your problem because you are trying to back up your claims with info from a site that is mostly regarded as innaccurate, which only makes your claims less valid. I'm not saying you are wrong, just that you made a pretty wide sweeping comment on the PSP and cited an unreliable site as your source.

Soundwave may be right and I acknowledge as such, but something like Smash benefitted from releasing on handheld first and having a larger install base at the time of release.

If you wholeheartedly believe that there is no decline in the handheld sector then that is great.


GBA sales were going to decline as result of the PSP's existence that's the whole point, if the DS wasn't there the sales would have gone to Sony, Nintendo had to get the DS out fast otherwise they risked handing the market to Sony like how the N64 delay gave Sony free reign over the console market for a year and a half. Even if the DS was always on the way the PSP forced the situation in bringing it out early in the GBA's life.

Again it isn't really my problem if you don't want to accept VGC because if I was wrong on the software side of things on the PSP the site would have numbers however inaccurate highlighting this after all they have the numbers of notable releases after 2009 and those aren't great, piracy and homebrew on the PSP was no secret.

Smash is a series that not only has never hit portable but a fighting game as well, a genre that has never really faired well on portables, the majority of people thought the home console version would outell it no problem but instead the opposite happened. I'm willing to bet the games that have been exclusive on console until now will experience something similar as really the main reason the consoles would benefit from having a shared library is the third party games the portable side of things get.