How Pro Evolution Soccer might be the Wii's big weapon in Europe.

[Ajax]

You personally said on a positive note "all hail Konami" right after you said it only scored as well was because it got a fresh start since it had no previous year Nintendo version

of course it's a great move by Konami, whether you prefer the Wii version or not, and I don't think i said it ''only'' scored as well because etc. I said that you should also look at the context in which a game is released.

It doesn't suprise me your mates all feel like you do, you probably play Fifa against them on a PS3. And you've probably played with them for a long time, and like the controls as they feel at home to you.

well actually the whole topic I've talked about Pro Evo and even our ''Pro Evo pub'', so I don't see why you come up with Fifa now, anyway, I also made clear that I'm no football-gamer myself, when I said:

Ajax said:

i'm not a computer football fan myself, I rather play it for real on some real grass, but some friends of mine seriously play it hours and hours and hours in a row, and we have regulary tournaments in town.. I only go with them for the beer when they play :P

I play some matches, but you can't consider me a fan.

But sales show people are buying the Wii version, and they like it. Even though it came out late and is graphically underpowered. Why? And can it grow in '09 and beyond? What happens with simultanious release next year? All we are saying is it had a good start and we expect it to build well next year and beyond. Can it dominate on the Wii? Some said the Wii could never dominate.

of course, the install base of the Wii is getting bigger and bigger rapidly, sure it will sell, and I also expected it to have good legs, but I say, that the sales don't come from many Pro Evo fans, longtime Pro Evo gamers, the hardcore or whatever you wanna call them. So i said:

some friends of mine play Pro Evo for some serious money over here, tournaments and stuff, and I still don't see them switching over to the Wii and it's mechanics.

nontheless it will sell of course, with already almost 9 mill Wii's in Europe, next year the install base will be significantly higher, so it not selling it would actually be strange.

Always has been doesn't make always will be (Final Fantasy was always on Nintendo once upon a time).

strange comparison, cause there was only one FFVII on one console so you had to play it on the PSX, in the case of Pro Evo or Fifa you can chose on which platform you want to play it, so you aren't forced to switch


anyway, I understand what you mean of course, and the Wii PES getting an attach rate like the PS3 version is not impossible, but I think the percentage amongst the Wii Pro Evo gamers of gamers new to the series will significantly be higher than the case will be with the PS3 version.

So, you think the PS2 version is the best version because your friends think it's the best?

no not my friends, but veteran Pro Evo players, who also are my friends, but that's secundary, but I actually should ask em about it again though, they might be playing the PS3 version more now (or the Wii version lol)
but who do you trust, guys who play years tournaments for a couple of hundred euro's or some IGN or Gamespot guy?

anywaaayyyyyyy, Konami is doing a good job, and will probably do better and it has potential, but still I say, it won't be people switching to the Wii version, but rather most buyers will be relatively new to the series..

damn what a long post, I wonder if you will even bother reading it lol