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endy.G said:
DerNebel said:

Nah, actually that's what realism looks like, you really have to worry about the state of Xbox Europe if their top management thinks they can bring the same stuff to the market they've brought for the last 8 years or so, add Tomb Raider (for a couple months) and boom they suddenly start making up lost marketshare. I think they actually know that that's not going to happen but gotta make it look good for the press, can't really blame them for that.

Also I'd like to know what their supposed strategy and social gaming killer app this holiday season is supposed to be.


just pretend to yourself, live in your own world and be happy...
commets like that are just pure arrogance and only be used by a cetrain group of people

i also could say no1 gives a shit about uncharted and most sony first party games in the us. they only buy that console for theire daily dose of shooter and sports + action games. why do they even try. and that would be pure arrogant fanboy talk, too

people and regions prefer different games and console for different reasons. some are in the majority some are in the minority
over 1 million people already disagree with you. and microsoft is doing great for THEIRE audience. if people want to join xbox, fine. many will follow. some won't, because playstaion fits them more. some will never because they are just dislike everything microsft and xbox relatet no matter what. that is also okay, but the xbox is not made for that kind of people, and microsoft should not even care for that kind of people. at most for the money of that "audience"

microsoft has to compete with sony this generation without the xb360 head start and the fucked up ps3 launch.
even last gen, they got outsold over 2:1 in continental europe. microsoft had a rough start, but they are fine.
if they manage 10 million liftime in europe (without uk ofc) they should be very happy. if the ps4 don't outsell the xb1 by more than 3 or 4:1 overall in continental europe, they should be happy

 

p.s.
social gaming killer app = minecraft ofc
that's what they refer to. minecraft is always in the top 10 sales charts in southern europe...

How does anything you said negate anything I said or how does it even have anything to do with what I said? Of course the nobody part was hyperbole on my part, I thought that should be obvious but the simple fact is that, and vgchartz data shows this, MS' first party offering does not make huge waves in Europe, which will now only be further amplified by the current situation of the Xbox One.

You bring up Uncharted as an example of the same being true for Sonys first party in the US (which btw is something I'd agree on, aside from a couple franchises nothing on Sonys side is huge on selling consoles in the US either), which is a really poor example as every Uncharted in the US (on PS3 at least) has managed to sell over 2 million copies, something that outside of Kinect Adventures no MS exclusive has managed in Europe (if we exclude the UK).

And games like Fifa and Minecraft will just be bought on other systems where they are available as well and where they have a huge userbase in Europe already.

The rest of your post is nice I guess, but has nothing to do with what I said. MS want to make up marketshare in Europe with their lineup this holiday season and I'm simply saying that outside of the UK this is not going to happen with that offering. It might if Sony just sat around doing nothing, but the way things are looking, they will have to try something different to actually gain an amount of marketshare that's worth mentioning in continental Europe cause currently it looks like the complete opposite is happening. There's nothing arrogant about saying that.