midrange said:
you are using weird examples. ocarina/majoras are old games and are easy to port to. Likewise, xenoblade was on the wii (not powerful or hd) and was recently ported to Nintendo's most powerful handheld only (new 3ds). A better example would be smash bros and the difference in quality you see. Honestly, the wii u had good third party support from the get go. It almost had 2 luanch exclusives from ubisoft, whereas the ps4 only had marketing exclusives. Saying that the NX won't have good third party support either way is unfounded. 3rd parties look for hype, ease of development, and install base; ps4 had all of this, ps2 had all of this, wii had all of this, gamecube was missing hype and soon after install base, the wii u was missing hype, games, and soon after install base. So in reality, as long as their next console is made with all of this in mind, it does not have to rely on a gimmick to appeal to everyone. Unifying both sides may seem like a good idea, but in reality it will put all of their eggs in a basket. It has too compete head to head against the ps4 while simultaneously competing against the mobile market. If it fails, Nintendo may no longer have it's handheld lead to rely on, and we can forget about having them remain non-third party. The other thing is, making seperate entries on both handheld and console allows them to milk their heavy hitting franchises while giving them a fresh feel. If Nintendo announces pokemon snap wii u or pokemon colosseum wii u, people won't say "but we just got pokemon alpha sapphire and omega ruby," because a home console pokemon hasn't been done in a while; same with animal crossing, metroid, pikmin, starfox,kid icarus,... |
I'm sorry but u seem to be misunderstanding what I'm saying, u claimed that handhelds are for quick bursts on the go while consoles are for bigger & more epic style games. I used 2 examples of games that are considered to be for consoles, 3D Zelda & Xenoblade, to show u that these type of games work absolutely fine on a handheld and considering OoT3D sold over 3 million while MM3D sold over 2 million shows that their is a market for epic quests on handhelds. A game like Animal Crossing shows that short burst gaming is popular on consoles as well considering that the GC/Wii versions sold similar numbers to the 3D Zelda titles on 3DS.
I never said Wii U didn't have 3rd party support initially or that NX won't have 3rd party titles, what I said is that they won't do much for its success. By the end of 2016 PS4 could be around 50 million with XBO around 30 million, the people who just bought those consoles won't upgrade to NX to play the same games they already have access to and late adopters will likely choose the consoles their friends have that also have much larger libraries and online communities. Fighting over PS/XB audience in most scenarios leads to a console with subpar 3rd party sales which then causes subpar 3rd party support and we are left with a console whose only major selling point is the half dozen or so 1st/2nd party exclusives each year.
It does not put all their eggs in one basket, they are still seperate devices, if both devices fail while having much greater output from Nintendo than they were already set to fail as 2 devices with 1st party droughts. Ur concern about not being able to milk their franchises isn't valid. Their is no reason Nintendo can't release a mainline & spinoff Pokémon title within a few months of one another. From October 2014 to April 2015, 3DS received 4 seperate Pokémon titles, Pokémon Art Academy, Pokémon OR/AS, Pokémon Shuffle, Pokémon Rumble Blast. The same goes for Zelda, we just got MM3D earlier this year, are getting Triforce Heroes in a few months and Hyrule Warriors: Legends early next year. From May 2012 to May 2013, 3DS for Mario Tennis, NSMB2, Paper Mario, Mario vs Donkey Kong, so Nintendo can and has released multiple entries from the same series multiple times in a year for many of their big franchises and it does not seem to have hurt their software sales.
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