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sasquatchmontana said:

 

ArchangelMadzz said:

I'm not the one making the claim that Microsoft made a collaborative effort, I'm saying them potentially saying 'we want co-op' does not make it a collaborative effort.

And I would just like to know when and how you decided that, and if you think it's up to you?

ArchangelMadzz said:

But Dreams, Horizon, or a new IP that sucker punch comes up with does

Well, if it's already decided those are flagship IP, can one do the same with Microsofts upcoming ones? Even the unnanounced ones? If so, whats the issue?

ArchangelMadzz said:

Anyone with a big wallet can buy a team after they make a brilliant thing.

And before its made.

ArchangelMadzz said:

Oh yes Kinect Adventures, how could I forget such a masterpiece. My bad, it's such a big IP that we always look forward to it, every time one comes out.. no, it's not a big IP

You did mention Driveclub and Killzone in the same sentence as flagship right?

It's up to the buyers who decide what's a big IP or not. It's interesting though, because Wiifit/Play/Sports ...no-one would say that Nintendo did not make massive IP. But when it's Microsoft.....

ArchangelMadzz said:

It sold a lot as it was bundled with a Kinect, but if you see Kinect Adventures in the same light as Forza then I don't know what to say..

Were any of the Sony flagship IP you mentioned earlier bundled in any way? I think there weerrrrrreeeeeeeeeeoooooooooooooooooooowpppppppwabiddly


I was under the impression we were talking about opinions. If in your opinion saying 'we want co op' makes it a collaborative effort than that's fine.

I didn't say it was flagship, I'm saying it counts as new IP created by a Sony studio

Driveclub just announced that it sold 2 million units, if it was bundled with every PS4 then obviously I wouldn't count it. If Nintendo announced a Wii Sports U, and it had to be purchased on it's own and not bundled, do you think many people would be excited? Do you think it'll sell millions of units like Mario Kart 8 or Smash Bros U? No. Why? Because it's not a big IP, it got super popular because it came with the Wii. If Sony had an equivalent I wouldn't count it either.

You're actually trying to make strawmen aren't you? You KNOW I'm talking about being bundled with EVERY 360 with Kinect. Not just a 'bundle'. But you felt the need to make a fake point to waste your and my time?



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