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sasquatchmontana said:
Ah the convenient "vgchartz numbers are all made up" argument, for when you're trying to make a point by pulling numbers out of your ass but the data of the site completely disproves you.

Surely for the website, the fact that they're all fictional and altered at the drop of legit sales data, it's decidely inconvenient.

Adjusting to more accurate data when it becomes available does not mean the data is made up, but it sure works out to say that for you who is actually the one just lying and making up numbers here.

Also the 360 version of Titanfall released in march but hey that suuurely didn't have anything to do with the game even achieving that number...

April 8th, actually. So yes, it surely didn't have anything to do with it.

Since the second month (which we were talking about) was April it had a ton to do with it

It's entirely irrelevant, also I'd sure like to see a source on that 1.2 million number.

NPD March 2014. Aren't you a subscriber?

Nope and neither are you, so I'm assuming you can't give me a source.

Lol, wat? Tomb Raider is pretty much at the bottom of the list of relevant games this holiday season, the big 4 this holiday season are Fallout, Battlefront, CoD and Halo all of which are releasing within 3 weeks of Tomb Raider and all of which are doing noticably better than Tomb Raider in capturing peoples interest.

Well bottom would be whatever Assassins Creed is or the innumerate remasters or MGSV.  Even so, being the 4th most popular game behind Cod, Halo, FO4 is like saying, "you're not going to sell 10 million before Jan 1st 2016", when between 3-5m would be considered decent enough.

Lol MGS V at the bottom? Bwahaha, MGS V will easily outsell Tomb Raider, as will the next AC. Tomb Raider is not the 4th most popular game (btw. can you read and count?), again the 4 most popular games this holiday will be Cod, Battlefront, Fallout and Halo then you have games like AC, Fifa and MGS V and then we might be getting to Tomb Raider and in no way is that game selling close to 3 million units this year unless it's extensively force bundled.

And what is with that completely senseless math? The Steam version is at over 3.2 million, on the consoles this game sold better on PS and the game sold the worst on Xbox, that's the simple reality.

Uh what? TR2013 was best selling on Xbox 360, DLC and all that. Had something like a 500k lead on launch month. Maybe you're confusing Tomb Raider on PSone?

Uh what? That's a complete lie, stop fucking lying. At no point did Tomb Raider (2013) sell better on 360 than on PS3.

20-25%? Well that's cute...not like over 90% of PC sales are digital nowadays...oh wait... they are...

http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/24/report-92-percent-of-pc-game-sales-in-2013-were-digital/

Heh, so 90% of 10% of the overall sales are digital. But 25% of 90% of overall sales are digital on console.

What kind of bullshit is this? No game nowadays only does 10% of its sales on PC unless it releases significantly later on it and Titanfall did not release late on PC.

sasquatchmontana said:

Yeah TR 2013 did it on 5 platforms, of which again the Xbox platforms were the lowest, and after numerous discounts and you expect it to do it essentially on X1 alone, do you not get the insanity in that idea?

Historically, Microsoft first party games released in November (discluding console launch) sell 6-8 million. It's just a pattern. I mean Gears of War 2 did more than that and that was had lower sells than Wii Fit, Wii Play, World at War and Mario Kart Wii. Gears 1. Gears 2. Gears 3. Halo 2, Halo 3. Halo 4. Halo Reach and now, Rise of The Tomb Raider. Oh yes.

Again that's a lie (I'm noticing a pattern from you here). Gears 2 sold over 8 million? Who do you think is going to believe this BS? No Fable game sold 6-8 million units, no Forza game did it, no Left 4 Dead game did it, no Dance Central did it, Viva Pinata didn't do it, Sunset Overdrive didn't do it, Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts didn't do it and as anybody here can tell you Tomb Raider won't do it.

sasquatchmontana said:

Jesus Christ...yeah Rare Replay surely isn't that high because it...uhhh..releases in 5 days...no, no there's no connection there at all and there's totally no pattern at all..

Well if you say so, Rare Replay is selling at CoD levels then?

Yup that's what I'm saying, not that games that are closer to launch are bought more than games that are farther away from launch... and before you jump on this: I am being sarcastic and am saying that of course games closer to launch sell more than games farther away from launch. I thought that logic could be expected here but I guess not in this case.

sasquatchmontana said:

Also stop pulling BS numbers out of your ass, where is your source that AC1 did 7 million on 360?

Ubisoft. Their fiscal reports.

Post them.

sasquatchmontana said:

And that it was lagging behind in hype behind CoD and Halo the way RoTR is lagging behind the rest currently? Cause I remember AC being a pretty damn huge deal in 2007.

Well on HD consoles, it was probably the 4th or 5th biggest release of the holiday.

If you include Wii on that....7th or 8th? Just goes to show, even "8th" place in November, is better then 1st place in March.

Oh and this is going to be the end of this "discussion" on my part, I don't have any interest in continuing to talk with an obvious liar that makes up numbers and stats to support his argument.