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Bofferbrauer said:

Right now, this is true. Like I said however, games on PC keep on selling while console game sales are extremly frontloaded. Thus over time, PC reverses this trend

Might be true. But it really doesnt matter alot if a pc gamer do buy a game for 3$ in Steam sale or not. Developer need money to finance their games, not sell as many units as possible. So 20 pc games sold in steamsales might bring as many money as a console game at full priece. Thats the problem.

Ever asked yourself why they get that much per person? There are 3 reasons to it: First, it is a genre where publishers arbitrairly decided it would not sell, so fans of the genre where waiting for some ime for such a game. Second, the game shows what a PC is capable of, something you can't really get from multiplats. And third, because it is a PC exclusive, meaning they don't need to take console hardware limitations into consideration. Especially points 2&3 are things PC gamers where yearning for years now.

Right but this dont/wont work for every game. The game "promises" to be what pc-hardcore gamers waited scince years (pushed graphics to the maximum, pushes gameplay to the maximum and co). If every Multiplat would be like star citizen (thats what many pc players want) they wouldnt spend that many money on all those games. It wouldnt be special anymore. 

The game is not finished yet, not even marketed as such in any way. It's only natural it's still buggy as it is only in beta. The Order 1886 wasn't a beta, it was released and marketed as a finished game.

Right. But we have to see if Star Citizen will really be possible (at a budget of ~100mio). Keep in mind GTA V had a 250mio budget (included marketing) and way worse graphics and didnt features completly new game mechanics.

Witcher 3 got released a few weeks ago. Prices drop faster on PC, but eventually those on consoles do catch up. Thus this game is a rather bad example right now. The only games I buy at release are Nintendo games since they don't drop, ever. For the rest I wait a couple of years, at which point the prices are basically the same during sales between PC and consoles. Just need a bit of patience, that's all.

Console games dont drop to steam sale prices, but doesnt matter. IF everybody would do what you are doing, modern games wouldnt be possible at all^^. Also Console player do buy games alot more directly at release, because they just dont have alot alternatives. On pc there are 1000´s of great games for <5$. So just wait is alot easier as on consoles.

I know Assassin's Creed was buggy on all platforms, but the problems where even much worse on PCs than on consoles. The reason why many PC gamers complain about bad graphics is that PCs are capable of better things if anyone only really tries to tap it's potential. Hence why I mentioned Star Citizen so often, it's the first game in a long while to actually do so.

Like I said. Way better graphics as consoles = way more expensive. Better graphics are always more expensive. I heard Nintendo said developing a HD wii u games is 3x as expensive as developing a wii game. 

 PS2 was an exaggeration to drive my point home. Also, you're comparing only Graphics chips, but the PS3' Cell did much of these calculations too. Both a PC and a console are more than just the sum of their parts, but even in that case, you'd have to add the CPUs, which would narrow the gap quite a bit between 7th and 8th gen, especially for the Playstation. Gigaflops are a bad comparision anyway, since then AMD would wipe the floor both with NVidia (especially in double precision) and even Intel (since most of it comes from the integrated graphics Chip, where AMD is stronger than Intel), but that just couldn't be further from the truth.

The PS4's processor is it's weak point. Relatively low IPC, very low clock; games which can't get multithreaded easely will loose power here. Even then, the GPU has to help them out part of the time. Thus also limiting the power left for graphical scenes. It's basically a reversal of the previous console, where the CPU had to help out the GPU.

The comparison in terms of power was accurate. No pc game (not even star citizen) does look as much better as a ps4 game compared to a ps2 or ps3 game. I doubt Mass Effect 4 will look alot worse on ps4 as Star Citizen on pc Ultra (both have a very similar look). It might not look as good, yes, but not like its already nextgen.