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JinxRake on 20 July 2015
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mornelithe said:
JinxRake said:

Pretty sure Red Son Superman could destroy Goku quite finely, considering his personality.

All Star Superman is basically a no brainer for smudging Goku five ways from Sunday. 

 

What a character should or should not be able to do is NOT up for the debate of the fans. The discussion is fine and dandy and it's all in good fun that we annoy one another with these types of things...but it always comes down to preferences. 

 

Also, to whoever says Goku was supposed to be limitless: learn your DB and your DB background story. Goku was never meant to be reach beyond Frieza. Heck, he was never supposed to be some planet cracking super god. But fans demanded it, Toriyama was all too happy for the money, and here we are, with Cyan Hair Goku. 

"What a character should or should not be able to do is NOT up for the debate of the fans."

Irony is so ironic.

Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster (original creators of Superman) died in 1992 and 1996 respectively, by your way of thinking, all Superman canon after their deaths is not permissible.  Goku wins.

I'm afraid you did not quite get what I said. 

Fact: Toriyama did not want to push DBZ farther than the Frieza Saga. It was corporate insistance and fan insistance that got him to do more DBZ. You'll find this information on any DB Universe Wiki. 

My comment was made with regards to what a lot of fans keep on saying Goku SHOULD be able to do or not. If Goku runs the Snake Way in a few months, you'll find a lot of fans that keep on saying that he should have been able to do much faster since he already could move faster than light as a kid. Look it up, you'll find the discussions. 

When a Superman / Goku versus comes up, it's always the Goku camp that keeps on dragging it out into what the character should be able to do - crack a Galaxy or something -. Hence my comment.

 

Hope it clears up your irony sinus.