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Dodece said:
@Frodaddyg

A few things to consider before you kill your roommate, or melt your console down into slag. Have you followed all the recommended home repairs for your console. Have you cleaned the tray and drive with a can of compressed air? Have you unplugged your console for a period of time, and then tried to run it? Have you tried disconnecting your hard drive and seeing what effect that has?

Don't just assume that the console is truly broken. Your problem could be a piece of lint or dust. You may have a corrupted file on the hard drive, and a little deletion could resolve that for you. Perhaps you just need to reboot the system entirely. There are a lot of explanations beyond knocking the lens loose.

I would not recommend trying to hot box your 360 out of a sense of moral obligation. That is just committing an act of fraud, and because your dealing with a corporation doesn't necessarily make it acceptable. Even so you would probably be better off doing that, because they are not likely to repair a launch unit, and far more likely to simply replace it. However if they do not you will get a console in the mail with a disc reading error. Which you will promptly have to return. Then you have to hope that they believe that its the fault of UPS.

I would follow my conscience. How much is the sleep of the innocent actually worth to you.

I did take all possible measures I could to see if it was something I could fix. Canned air to pretty much every spot I can find on the console. HDD on, HDD off. All the self remdies, and got nothing for results.

I'd had very limited read errors before. My first copy of Halo 3 didn't read, but the second one worked fine, until that one stopped reading after several months, too. (Long enough for me to knock out the campaign online with Senor 'Pig.) I got occasional read errors, but a simple opening and closing of the tray usually solved them. Then, I had GTA freeze up a couple times on me early (once in the intro, and then a few other times while playing). I did get it up and running smoothly for 2-3 hours that night, then the next morning, I began getting multiple unreadable errors before the game would start up, and then freezing issues within a matter of minutes if i did get it to run. Then, the whole tripping situation occurred, and since that it won't even read the other games I've never had issues with, like CoD4 and Rock Band. 

Like I said, it's as old a console as you can have, seeing as it's a launch model, and the lens thing was probably going to just die at some point. It's just unfortunate timing that it occurred immediately following a big release. I'm not heartbroken, because the first few hours didn't exactly "wow" me, and i have MK and TWEWY to keep me busy in the meantime. 



The dedication you show to any particular console or company is inversely proportional to the number of times you have gotten laid. If you get laid enough, even if you prefer a certain brand, you just don't give enough of a shit to argue about it on the internet.