The Wii has many, many crummy games

[Words Of Wisdom]

LordTheNightKnight said:

"Games with bad gameplay or broken gameplay can still have pretty box art. I'm sure you know what that means..."

Show me data where bad games are hits based on the box art.  When I went to get Okami at Best Buy, I saw a little boy pick up a game I'd consider shovelware and say "This looks neat" and proceed to go show it to his mother.  I didn't pay attention to what happened after that though.  I think your obsession with data has made you forget what shopping was like as a child.

"Are you kidding? At first it was all excuses and we'll wait and see stuff coming out of developers. They didn't want to believe the Wii was going to be a commercial success. Now they're refusing to believe that success can benefit them. You're right in saying that developers putting down the Wii isn't a new thing, but the reason has very much changed. We've gone from guarded skepticism to denial."

But that isn't proof that shovelware is ruining the Wii. It just proves developers are being stupid.  I agree.

"It's not arrogance. I've seen people ranging from 5 years old to 30 years old play the game Cars (for example) and none really cared for it despite loving the movies. That's a heckuva lot more experience with what other people like than you have shown."

Because anecdotes you can make up sure are better than actual sales and trends data. [/sarcasm]  In terms of what?  Can you show me the total sales of all "shovelware" games on the Wii?

And Cars is not just on the Wii, so why wouldn't that turn them off to the other systems the game is on?  I never made that claim.  Please don't make false assumptions.

"Then why are the companies still making them? You'd think if they weren't selling those companies would stop making them unless *gasp* they're making a profit. But that would be logical."

I thought the point was gaming newbies buying the games in numbers sufficient to turn them off to the Wii (and possibly gaming entirely), not whether these minuscule sales were profitable.  You're deliberately missing the point.  In order to stay profitable, you have to make a certain level of sales and these companies are obviously making them.