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JustBeingReal said:

I said free standard online, so I meant using multiplayer would be free, the paid part was for free monthly games, the Nintendo spin could be that Nintendo doesn't charge people to play online.

As for your comment on Nintendo being against devaluing their games, if customers are paying for a service they're not getting something for free and thus the value of the software isn't diminished, in fact if the games provided on the service have declined in monthly sales substantially compared to when they were released it actually brings new interest in those games.

Another thing I have to point out is that Nintendo's games aren't actually priced high, they're cheaper at launch compared to their competition and when cost is reduced value goes up.

A subscription service that gives gamers access to a title that has diminished in sales then gets people talking about that game again.

A PS+ like service doesn't have to offer only Nintendo exclusives, Nintendo can give 3rd party publishers and indie developers revenue for access of those games on the service.

Once the access period is over the games go back to regular retail price, so technically it's only for a limited time that gamers can gain access to those games. A service like this actually raises the company's positive image, because it shows they care about the gamer more, Nintendo could do with all the positive image they can get right now, this would definitely raise Nintendo's value as a brand, rather than reducing it just because it's a service that is clearly thoughtful towards the gamer.

 

As for your Vita comment, no, Vita's hardware isn't anywhere near that, I know, because I have one, even the best looking games like Killzone Mercenary are still miles away from something Zombi U. Tech is most definitely not anywhere near that level yet, definitely not with affordable technology.

At best Vita's visuals are around that of PS2 (even then performance is still somewhat lacking compared to even PS2), this is coming from someone who is pro vita, we won't be at Wii U level performance in an affordable, mobile package until closer to when PS5 or the Next Xbox release, which is probably going to be more like 2019.


I know exactly what you were saying, dude. I'm saying that a yearly payed subscription 100% is not happening because of everything I posted.

From Nintendo's perspective, that's not the case. Paying $50 a year for hundreds of dollars worth of free games devalues those games. It's saying that all those games are only worth $50 combined, or a few dollars individually. That's a severe devaluization.

I'm not saying that I disagree with your stance on the PS+ model. It definitely does breath new life to games that are declining in sales. But I also agree with Nintendo. It absolutely devalues the worth of those games. I would 100% never pay full price for a game I saw for "free" on PS+. Why would anyone?

Nintendo doesn't want that. They want to encourage players to buy games full price. They want to keep the value of their games, i.e. games on their platforms, as high as possible. The Nintendo-like solution to boosting a declining game would be to offer it for 30% of if you bought another game or something. The Nindie initiative where if you downloaded an indie demo during E3, you get the game discounted at launch. That's the kind of stuff they want to do.

A model I describe would still raise Nintendo's image and still be thoughtful towards the gamer. The MK8 deal was vastly well recieved. The SMTxFE deal was vastly well recieved. People are still saving money. It's just not a commitement like a subscription is. Instead of monthly free games, it would be monthly deals. Buy DKC 1,2, and 3 to get Tropical Freeze for 30% off. Stuff like that. Things that encourcage people to buy software actively, as opposed to getting software for "free" passively.

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Not familiar enough with the Vita, but why have been lead to believe that that's not the case then? From everything that I've been lead to believe, the 3DS sub-GCN level, and the Vita is sub-360 level. The games I've seen on it that are graphically instensive look far better than anything I've scene on 6th generation systems. At least with the 3DS, REvelations definitely looks about as good, if not better, than the original Resi4. It's definitely leaps ahead of anything the N64 or PS1 can do. I was under the impression that the Vita had night and day better hardware than the 3DS, which already has at least PS2 level graphics.

That's last bit isn't me trying to prove anything. I'm genuinely uneducated on the matter and would appreciate further elaboration.