Alkibiádēs said:
walsufnir said:
mai said:
So what about Italy, Spain, Portugal, France, Denmark or Ireland? Were they "worthy"?
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That's a good question but I am not to judge and I am not the person who had the data to judge it. And I am not the person who made up the criteria. Thing is, the whole Euro topic is something that shows how democracy works (at least in Germany): Every 4 years you are allowed to elect people who dictate you what will happen.
There is a former German politician who said that is unfair to judge a government after election by their pre-election promises... this tells you what attitude they have towards the people they want them to vote.
Germany got the Euro because the government wanted it. No matter which party. Why weren't we able to vote for it? Because they knew we wouldn't want it. UK is a perfect example of this. It is absolutely ridiculous how we think that the world should function (see arabic spring) but democracy is only good for them if the common people do exactly what they want.
Do you remember when Ireland was to join EU? How many times did they do an election? "Let's vote until we get what we waYnt".
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You're suggesting a direct democracy, like in Ancient Greece, but that's impossible for big nation states like Germany. It would run like a train wreck. It barely worked in Ancient Greece, let alone in a country of 60 million people. Athens had what? 250.000 people?
You know the majority isn't always right, in fact they rarely are. The country should be run by people who have the expertise and knowledge in such things, the masses don't possess that knowledge. How could they?
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But do they? After what we know now about Greece and Euro, this point just can't be completely true. What "knowledge" do these people have? Our person in charge for defense, Ursula von der Leyen, was responsible for family ministry. She is totally exchangable. And she is only one example.
But to the other point: I don't want votes for every single fart out there, definitely not. But changing a currency is something so big that you have to let the common people vote for or against. The people in charge didn't evidently not have enough expertise and knowledge for the Euro.
