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hunter_alien said:
Mummelmann said:
I'm sure we had this debate when slavery was abolished as well and I know we had it when they stopped segregation in schools and on public transport.
I find it both sad and funny that many of the same people who scream that we need to take down IS for their lack of morals, which includes throwing gay people off of buildings as punishment, are also the ones who are outraged at same-sex marriage.

People who label themselves patriots are usually and ironically the ones damaging their country the most. Likening polygamy, prostitution, pedophilia and incest to same-sex marriage shows what level we're still on and it shows that we have a long way to go.

Perhaps we should just revoke womens rights to vote, dismantle Amnesty's anti-torture programs and start segregating the population again and then we'll let some wise men with holy books and assault rifles take charge and set things straight (pun very much intended).

TBH I do not find patriotism wrong, when it is present in natural doses. If anything, a healthy amount of patriotism is only for the best, as it helps the competitive nature of the world.

If anything it all boils down to negative propaganda. Everything does. Untill you dont trample on an avrege joe's basic human rights, IMO there is no reason why a certain behaviour shouldent be allowed. A true patriot, will allways see trough the smoke and mirror, so he will allways know what is wrong or right. At least as an idea, this should work.

OT: intelectual evolution is usually allways perceded by people who opose them. And then change happenes. This is true with the legalization of soft drugs and the right for gay couple to marry

Notice that I said "people who label themselves patriots".

I don't find anything wrong with patriotism either, in and on itself, I suppose it's a matter of definitions. To many, being a patriot apparently means supporting your nation in all its ridiculous solutions and decisions while to some it means raising your voice against them for the betterment of the people and society as a whole. I rather respect the latter.