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Ka-pi96 said:
Scoobes said:

ATB isn't like 13, and 12 is very far away from ATB and more in-line with MMOs. I haven't played XIV, but there hasn't been a single player ATB battle system since IX.

umm, ATB is exactly like 13. It's significantly sped up, only lets you control one character and has no option to wait but it is most definitely an ATB system.

The older games (such as 7) allowed you to customise the speed of the battle, so if you wanted it to be really fast and similar to 13 then you could do that, alternatively you could slow it down as well as having the option to freeze all atb build up (effectively pausing the battle) when one of your characters gauges is full, useful for both fast and slow paced battles.

It also has almost no strategic control beyond paradigm shifting. It's automatic battling with the odd bit of shifting at set points of a battle.

I don't see how that's like ATB. Just seems wrong.