Satya Nadella: We will bring together Xbox Live and our first-party gaming efforts across PC, console, mobile....

[Mr Puggsly]

MoHasanie said:

Mr Puggsly said:

You're ignoring one minor detail. Most people don't have PC or mobile devices that can handle X1 titles. Nor is that ideal way to play games for many. And if Windows/X1 is getting exclusives not coming to PS4, that means Playstation fans are still coming to MS.

X1 isn't just a struggling console, the console gaming industry is a struggling business. Even with PS4 on top this isn't the most profitable Playstation has ever been. Especally with the death of their mobile gaming market. Sony is trying new things like PS Now and PS Vue to expand. Nintendo is making phone games because much of their audience is now playing phones games. Basically, everybody in the console gaming business realizes that userbase is getting smaller. MS bolstering Windows gaming is an obvious move to make given Windows is still a big earner.

Yes that's true that most don't have powerful pc's, but PC gaming is much more popular than console gaming. Most people don't have pc's that can run games. but there are more gamers that have gaming pc's than consoles. 

PS fans might be coming to MS but not necessarily to Xbox. 

It is a struggling console. It's price went from $499 to $349 in a year. Meanwhile, the PS4 hasn't had one single price cut.

And I do agree that it's a struggling unprofitable business that MS is wasting time with. 

But the people that game on PC aren't necessarily the same audience as console gamers. which is why some games acheieve 5 - 20 million on consoles (combined) but do poor numbers on PC and vice versa. Steam machines for example are trying to make console gamers care about PC gaming.

Why are trying to prove to me X1 is a struggling console? I said it is. Read what I said again. However, I don't think its doing as poorly as some believe. Its not losing money like PS3, its not fading in obscurity like Vita, and it can still be successful without achieving 360 numbers.

By the way, saying it went from $499 to $349 is misleading. The $499 console had a Kinect in it. A Xbox with Kinect still cost $449-$500. Not pointing shows some bias in my opinion.

I don't think Xbox is a waste of time. MS's gaming division is worth billions and it has allowed MS to acquire an audience to push other products. Can you honestly say MS is better without Xbox? I doubt it and that's why Xbox is still around. Bottom line, the console gaming division is shrinking and MS should get serious about Windows gaming (Not PC gaming, Windows gaming). If Sony owned WIndows they would give it better support as well.