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Normchacho said:
McDonaldsGuy said:


You know, this is kind of off topic but I've actually always wanted to ask this:

What's wrong with revenge anyway? Don't give me a movie line too ("Revenge will consume you! Dun dun dun!!!"). What's wrong with it? Revenge is a dish best served cold, and Boston gets very, very cold. Revenge is good for the human soul.

In general, or in this context?

In the general sense, revenge is bad because in most cases it doesn't actually make the person seeking it feel better.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/pieces-mind/201309/revenge-will-you-feel-better

In the context of the death penalty, it's an emotional response which as I said before, I don't feel has any place in our justice system. It's why when somebody beats you up, and he person who did it gets arrested, they don't kick the shit out of him for his crime.


True, but murder is on a whole nother level of violence compared to beating someone up.

According to John Locke, there are three natural rights - life, liberty, and property. John Locke stated that, "Whosoever uses force without right, as everyone does in society, who does it without law, puts himself into a state of war with those against whom he uses it, and in that state all former ties are cancelled, [and] all other rights cease, and everyone has a right to defend themselves." (Source: Second Treatise of Government by John Lock)) When someone has committed a murder, that murderer has taken someone's three natural rights and forfeited his own natural rights.

Plus, when you beat someone up you only take away one of their natural rights temporarily if that. On the other hand a murder does. It's the ULTIMATE crime, and deserves the ULTIMATE punishment.

would you rather be beat up or murdered?