spurgeonryan said:
There is a big difference betwen shoving ridiculous unfounded ideas down people's throats as fact, and teaching things to children which, according to our best evidence, is true, and presenting the evidence to support it so that children can make their own decisions. If we had the same degree of proof for god as we did for evolution, I would not only be ok with cramming it down children's throat, I would absolutely demand it.
ohmylanta1003 said:
Lol. No one is embarrassing themselves. It's a theory. It has not been proven, never has been, and never will be. It's a theory. Based on some scientific findings? Sure. Still a theory, bub. You wanna call it a scientific theory, go ahead, but it's still a fucking theory.
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Now, I can't say that you actually are embarassed by what you said, but if I said something like that, I certainly would be. We're not just "calling it a scientific theory" to dress it up and make it sound important. We call it a scientific theory because that is a real term with a real definition that you seem unaware of. It has a very different meaning than when we use theory in daily life. The meanings are not only different, but opposed to eachother.
Theories do not tell us what happens. The theory of gravity is not a theory that says "well we think that objects may fall down, but we're not sure." No. We KNOW that things fall down (or more specifically towards other objects with mass), and the theory explains.
Evolution is a fact. We know that organisms change over time. We know that through breeding, we know that due to ring species, due to fossil records, do to population studies, due to studying bacteria in labs, and just through our observations. We know that gene frequency changes over time within populations. There is no debate about this.
Darwin's theory is not that evolution occurs. The theory of evolution explains the particular mechanisms by which evolution takes place. The theory states (among other things) that evolution is a result of natural selection. As in, environmental factors related to survival determine what genes are passed on or not passed on. Even if Darwin is wrong about the why that doesn't change the fact that evolution occurs.
If we don't teach scientific theories, we would have basically no science class. Should we not teach the heliocentric theory (the THEORY that the Earth goes around the sun, which is indeed a theory)? Should we not teach about plate tectonics (also a theory)? Should we stop teaching students about cells (cell theory)? Should we stop teaching that matter is made of atoms (atomic theory)? These are all theories. If you throw out all theories, you may as well not teach science.
The information on what scientific theory means is only a google search away. So, if you care about knowing what you're talking about, I would highly recommend you read it. If you wish to continue being ignorant of science, then that's your business. I can't tell you what to be embarrassed or not embarrased about, but I can tell you that your statement indicates a great deficiency in knowledge regarding science.
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