Game of Thrones Season 5 - anyone still watching? Unhidden spoilers ahead!

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TheLastStarFighter said:

binary solo said:

"Why Stannis is good"

Again, Stannis burns people.  You are OK with it as long as it's not his daughter.  Stannis is not a morally sound person.  You can argue he is a good leader, or that his harsh measures are necessary, but he is not a "good" person.  Killing his brother to become king is not a "good" decision, regardless if it's his "right".  If my brother and I were both wanting something wonderful and I was more deserving but I would have to kill him to get it, I would let him live and have the something.  I would never kill him to get it.

And as far as the "right" to the throne, Stannis has no real claim to it.  No one does.  It was by its nature a throne taken by force.  If the initial taking of it has merrit then it's Dany's now.  Robert had no legitimate claim to the throne, so if Robert's rebelian has merrit, then really it just belongs to whoever has the military will and ability to take it and there should be no such inheritance given to Stannis.  And as such it belongs to Tomlin until someone knocks him off it.

And as far as Stannis being the best choice to lead and to protect Westeros from the Others, meh.  Not really.  He was beaten soundly by the Lannisters in combat and lacks charisma to inspire his followers.  Tyrion, Jon, and Dany have shown varrying degrees of leadership, character and sound values to be suitable leaders.  Tywin was a fantastic leader while missing the good values part.  Stannis has been mostly desperate and flawed.

Also, he's going to burn his daughter in the books, too, it just hasn't happened yet.

That is total speculation you don't know this, and there is no way GRRM is going to spoil that sort of event. And even if Shireen burns it's probably not going to be Stannis' decree or by his hand. Stannis is stuck in the deep snow still trying to take Winterfell. Shireen is at the Wall with Mel and Selyse.

And Dany burns a healer of the sheep people who seeks justice for the slaugher, rape and enslavement of her people. But I most people seem to think Dany is cool. In the context of the consequences for betraying your king burning as a form of execution is a method on a continuum of cruelty. So far in the books Stannis has never burned anyone who has not wronged him (or the realm) in some way. He wanted to burn Edric and Mance's baby who are the innocents he could have burned but that was prevented, and wanting and doing are different things.