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Soundwave said:
HoloDust said:


No, I'm not confusing it, I'm mostly reserving 2nd party for studios that are, if independant, in long term exlusive relationship with some platfrom holder - if Nintendo, say, pays Obisidian to make a game for them, I see that as 3rd party exclusive, since Obsidian remains 3rd party. If Nintendo starts ordering games from them, and Obsidian starts making them just for Nintendo I would see them as 2nd party.

And comapring funds needed to make Bayonetta, Wonderful 101 and Devi'ls Third to games like Skyrim and Witcher is..well, bit silly. Cause that's the level of funding we're talking here about.

Wonderful 101 for example wasn't a cheap game to make. Platinum has confirmed this, it cost as much as MGS Rising or any of their other games apparently. Go figure. 

And realistically Nintendo doesn't need to feature match in every way. Splatoon doesn't have every feature every shooter on the market does. But it uses the same basic forumla in a unique way and it works. Splatoon likely doesn't have anywhere near the budget of something like Destiny, but because the genre/play type is popular it's at least finding some success on the market. 

I don't know what 101's budget is - but I really doubt it's comparable to Witcher 3, let alone Skyrim.

And honestly, I'm not sure I quite understand you or have I missread - are we're talking about mainstream appeal here? Cause if we are, no, Splatoon does not have mainstream FPS appeal, that is reserved for CoD and Battlefield, until something else of that sort shows up.

If not, sure they can make great WRPG on much lower budget, hell most, if not all, of my favorite WRPGs come from very modest studios - but honestly, they don't have quite a mainstream appeal.