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HoloDust on 08 June 2015
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Soundwave said:
HoloDust said:


Umh, isn't Retro 1st party dev? Others - yeah, no, this is medieval open-world WRPG we're talking here about, not that I think Retro would be able to pull it off.

Anyway, why do they have to use their own internal studio? Beacuse if they want to make something AAA like Skyrim or Witcher they would need to cough up a lot od cash for 3rd party exclusive, which I don't see them doing.

That is if they can even find studio that can do it - making open-world WRPG that is suitable for mainstream is really not so easy task. There are smaller devs, like Pirahna Bytes, Obisidian or even Reality Pump who could be able to pull it off with proper funding, but I seriously doubt people currently in head of Nintendo would be willing to invest heavily in such 3rd party game - they just don't seem to me willing to take such a risks.

It isn't really a risk. First of all I think you're also confusing "3rd party" for what is actually "2nd party". When a publisher pays a studio to develop something for them, that's a 2nd party game. 

Instead of pumping money into Bayonetta 2, Wonderful 101 (which was NOT a cheap game to make per Platinum), and Devil's Third they could've instead financed a FPS shooter or Western adventure RPG, they just choose to continually greenlight a lot of very niche Japanese titles that don't even sell in Japan. 

Their software output in the 90s was a lot more varied and mainstream (1080, Wave Race, Kobe Bryant NBA, GoldenEye, Star Wars ... these are games with mass appeal). 


No, I'm not confusing it, I'm mostly reserving 2nd party for studios that are, if independant, in long term exlusive relationship with some platfrom holder - if Nintendo, say, pays Obisidian to make a game for them, I see that as 3rd party exclusive, since Obsidian remains 3rd party. If Nintendo starts ordering games from them, and Obsidian starts making them just for Nintendo I would see them as 2nd party.

And comapring funds needed to make Bayonetta, Wonderful 101 and Devi'ls Third to games like Skyrim and Witcher is..well, bit silly. Cause that's the level of funding we're talking here about.