TheGoldenBoy said:
Chris Hu said:
TheGoldenBoy said:
Chris Hu said:
John Stockton never won any rings but to be he is a top 10 player because of the numbers he put up. He is the best pure point guard of all time and no one is even going to come close to his total assist and steal numbers. Those two records he will have forever. Lets see the current active leader in assist (Andre Miller) barely has over half as many as Stockton did and the same applies to the current active leader in steals (Kobe Bryant) and both of those are very close to retiring.
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Stockton is another one of those guys (like Barkley and Malone) that just can't be in the Top 10 because of their lack of rings. If sheer numbers is all it takes then Kareem should be considered the greatest of all time because he's Top 5 in Points, Blocks and Rebounds. For me personally it's a combination of the numbers and accomplishments. Stockton's definitely Top 20 though.
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Nope, you need a team to win and Stockton just never had enough help besides Malone and even without much of a suporting cast he made it to two consecutive finals. Also its pretty dumb to have a top ten that doesn't have a player from every postion. Stockton is the best overall pure point guard so not putting him in a all time top ten is pretty dumb. The only other point guard you can put ahead of him because of titles is Magic Johsonson but that is a unfair comparison since in reality Magic Johson was a small forward that happened to play the point guard spot. Guys that are 6'9 are usually small forwards or shooting guards.
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A Top 10 list isn't charity. You have to earn that spot and the facts are that there are 10+ players with greater accomplishments than John Stockton. What position you played doesn't matter in where you rank. You don't need a player from every position. You can make a Top 10 list with 6 Centers if you wanted to. This is not about creating the best team, it's about the greatest players to ever play.
Also, comparing Magic to John is also completely fair because Magic did play the PG position. It's your skill set that determines your position not your height. If that's the case then it's "unfair" to even compare Lebron with anyone since he can and does play the PG, SG, SF and PF positions effectively.
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The fact is that there aren't 10 other player with greater accomplishement there are no other players that have unsurpassable leads in two major statics assists and steals which proofs that he was a great offensive and defensive player. Winnig titles is about teams not players, basketball is a team sport. Raking the all time top ten is about more then just titles.
