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TheGoldenBoy said:
amp316 said:

MVPs and championships aren't everything.  Was Karl Malone or Charles Barkley a bum because they never won a title?  Michael Jordan used to not win the MVP nearly every year since he couldn't win it every year.  I personally would put Robertson or Olajuwon over LeBron, Shaq, or even Wilt.  Shaq and Wilt both dominated because of their size but couldn't shoot a FT to save their lives.  And while LeBron is the perfect athelete, he doesn't have the heart of any on that list.  I could list a hundred that I think have more heart than him.  Of course, that's just my opinion, after all.    

Of course Barkley and Malone aren't bums, but they're not Top 10 Greatest because of their lack of rings. As for Shaq and Wilt's inability to hit FT, they still have all the accolades and stats. I personally don't mind if someone wants to put Hakeem or Robertson over Lebron in the moment, but I don't think Shaq can be taken off any Top 10 list.

John Stockton never won any rings but to be he is a top 10 player because of the numbers he put up.  He is the best pure point guard of all time and no one is even going to come close to his total assist and steal numbers.  Those two records he will have forever.  Lets see the current active leader in assist (Andre Miller) barely has over half as many as Stockton did and the same applies to the current active leader in steals (Kobe Bryant) and both of those are very close to retiring.