Look at the ratio! Wii - Nintendo best 3rd parties support?

[cookingyourmama]

RolStoppable said:

cookingyourmama said:

Lots of flaws with what you said:

1. The wii hasn't had any major third party releases either but if you'd read what i've said in my other posts you'd understand why this favours the wii. Most of the wii's games are casual games and casual games generally start off selling slower than hardcore games but have longer legs. So for example say a game was released on the 360 10 weeks ago and a game was also released on the wii 10 weeks ago. In the first 5 weeks of sales the 360 game out sold the wii game but in the final 5 weeks the wii game out sold the 360 game even tho overall the 360 game still has the higher ltd sales. This is what has been happening in recent weeks and thats why the wii 3rd party sales are alot closer to the 360 3rd party sales then they usually are.

2. Discounting mario and sonic at the olympics just because it is old doesn't change the fact that it is the wii's top selling 3rd party game by a long way and it's selling this well because of first party characters being included.

3. Production values mean nothing to casual wii owners, if games sells were equal to production values then the wii wouldn't be where it is today.

4. Mircosofts first party sales are poor and i have never said otherwise but this still doesnt change the fact that despite the wii having 6 million more consoles out their it sells less 3rd party software than the 360 and it sells at a ratio far lower than it's hardware install base.

1. So generally the Wii has an unfair advantage in 3rd party sales because the games tend to have legs, unlike 360 games.

2. So yet again another unfair advantage that the Wii has, the 1st party is helping the 3rd party game. Good that Microsoft doesn't do anything like heavily advertising 3rd party games for their system in TV commercials.

3. But production values and critical acclaim mean a lot to 360 owners. They should buy the games in droves. How many 360 games are there with an average rating of 80 or more? 150?

4. So the lower amount of 3rd party sales on the Wii can't be blamed on the far better 1st party sales on the platform? You know, there are only so much games will people have time to play.

How about an additional point:

5. Wii 3rd party sales have to be only half of the 360's sales, because Wii games cost roughly half in development. If the Wii's 3rd party sales are larger than 60 % of the 360's 3rd party sales, 3rd parties generally were more successful on the Wii if we consider return on investment.

Apologies for not spoting your post.

1. Generally 360 3rd party games out sell wii ones but wii ones generally have longer legs where as 360 ones are more front loaded.

2. How much microsoft advertises 3rd party games vs how much nintendo does plus adding 1st party characters into a game is something that is impossible to measure 100% however mario and sonic at the olympics has huge sales and a sales pattern that matches a first party game.

3. Production values do matter to 360 owners alot, but not so much to wii owners who are more casual and don't care about those things.

4. 3rd party sales to a degree can be blamed on wii's great first party sales but developers don't care they just want to have good 3rd party sales.

5. Not always and that is a grey area because nobody knows the exact figures.