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teigaga said:
zorg1000 said:
I still don't understand the logic of just making a Nintendo version of Playstation/Xbox, they don't appeal to the same demographic and the PS/XB crowd of 13-35 year old males has wanted nothing to do with Nintendo for about 20 years.

Look at Nintendo's top 50 best selling games, 48/50 are what we would consider casual-friendly (kids, females, parents). So the logical choice for Nintendo is to pursue the casual crowd which they clearly did not this generation.

Its extremely safe route and more beneficial for their core audience. The difference between Nintendo trying for the casual market is that we have no reason to believe that they're interested, they've had Wii Fit U, NintendoLand, Wii play, Mario Party, 2D Mario, Mario Kart, Just Dance, Wii sports club etc and clearly they're not that interested in Wii U. Although Wii U is more expensive then WIi, its only $50 more. We should be seeing more of an impact of said titles if the casual market was actually interested by this content, instead the Wii U is selling worse then any Nintendo home console in history. People call the wii a "fad" for a reason, its market was temporary and Nintendo could try and find another gimmick but that is a risk

On the other hand the Gamecube and N64 were "Nintendo versions of Playstation/Xbox" and they performed way better then Wii U, they also managed to appeal to the same broad range of demographics (male/female+young/middle aged) that we're use to seeing with Nintendo consoles, they also had impossible competition (PS1/PS2). Developers no longer hand out exclusives to Playstation like candy as they once did with Final Fantasy, GTA, Tekken, metal gear solid- all the biggest games from the PS1/PS2 era. This presents a clear opportunity for Nintendo to grow provided they build a system many of us would actually want to play big third party games on, this what Microsoft tapped with the Xbox 360. Despite being a Nintendo fan a WIi U could only ever be a secondary console for me, even if it did have third party support I wouldn't want to play games like Witcher 3, Final Fantasy XV and StarWars Battlefront on highly dated hardware, barely better then systems I already have at home (360/PS3)

Going for the core market simply means Nintendo do what they done during NES/SNES/N64 era's and make a few adjustments.
-Release before the competition unlike N64/GC
-Combine impressive hardware with an affordable pricetage just like the above systems (in todays market $349-399 is affordable enough)
-Consult with third parties so hardware works well for them aswell as for Nintendo 1st parties
-sell hardware for profit or take a small loss at launch, offset by launch games.
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release quality 1st party software and make major profits from that

-market themselves in neutral way which doesn't make it seem like they're main demographic is under 12s
-completely drop anything relating to Wii and have Nintendo abbreviated to just "N" in the name just like N64/ NX


Its fall proof, has worked for them in the past and benefits Nintendo fans more as they're more likely to get third party content. Gamecube and N64 had superior third party support and success compared to the Wii U. Hardware is definitely a defining element of this, marketing the other. 

The thing is that "casuals" are always looking for new experiences, simply releasing sequels to those games u listed is not enough, that plus the horrible marketing that left people thinking it was an accessory, the $100 higher price tag at launch (talking about the non gimped sku) and releasing a not so casual friendly controller (Wii Remote was made because traditional controllers had become to intimidating/complex for non long time gamers, the Gamepad went right back to the dual analog, 8 button layout that casuals don't respond to very well). The combination of all these things in addition to Nintendo basically dropping support for Wii in its last 2 years caused Wii U to not be able to hold on to any of the expanded audience they won over with Wii.



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