Why is Nintendo Wii dominating Sony PS3 and Microsoft 360?

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libellule said:

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libellule said:

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So, how can you say that PS2 did kill GC and XBox? What if it was the lack of games?

==> yes, I believe. Games that were released on PS2 and not on GC/DC/Xbox as GTA for example. The same that are still not on Wii ... 

 OK, so 360 says hi in NA, but despite it saying hi, Wii sells the best, and apparently people are getting PS360:s since Wii is so hard to find.

==> 1/ people are getting Xbox360arcade/PS2 if they can't buy a Wii. Premium/elite/PS3 are too expensive.

2/ Of course, Wii is dominating NA. But I think PS3 sales suffer more from the Xbox360 than the Wii sales. But I agree NA is Xbox360/Wii domination. 

 In PAL regions, i don't think PS3 is selling anywhere near PS2 levels, since if i recall TheSources "50 million" article, Wii is actually trailing behind PS2 by quite a margin and considering PS3 trailing behind Wii.

==> let's check with VGC table :

Europe :  all very close.

PAL : Wii = PS2 > PS3.

So basically, despite selling very well in PAL/Europe, Wii is not able to STOP PS3 sales that remains very high for a 3rd console.

 So, if the market crashed, then what all the fanboys are complaining about?

==> huh ? nobody is complaining since everybody is selling in a way.

If Wii would have been similar console to PS360, the 3 would have split the number of consoles PS3 and 360 have sold combined by 3 of them. So, Wii is nothing but good for the industry anyway you want to look at it.

==> hum, YES.

so you agree with me that all 3 consoles are selling and that Wii, because targetting casuals/non gamers, is not really inhibiting the PS360 sales despite selling like hot cake ?

PS2 was the second in the market, just like PS3, and PS2 killed Dreamcasts sales before PS2 launch.

==> That I agree. As I said, Wii is not able to kill PS360 as PS2 killed DC/Gc/Xbox.

 

No, i don't agree, Wii is getting a lot of PS360 customers. I was just pointing out what you actually were saying.

You know what, you actually gave the answer what i was expecting to the first question. Notice how you said yet, well as for some games, i doubt we will see them on Wii, but every platform has its exclusives.
Now the thing is, that Wii haven't yet had its full impact on PS360, most of the PS360 games started on 2007, 2006 and even pre PS3 launch, are still in developement. After these games are out, the publishers will head for Wii, since game that's developent is started today, have plenty of time to enter the 2009 christmas market (while PS360 title may hit 2010 market), when Wii has bigger userbase than PS3 and 360 combined.
So, after the games are out, Wii kills the competition (i expect that 2009 is declining sales for PS360, and 2010 will be "death" for the competition, as in context you're talking about). Wii already has quite a few exclusives that the others don't have, with the exception, that quite a few "HD exclusive" title will be ported to Wii, but not the other way around.

Wii has had supply constrains in NA virtually its whole lifetime, and catching 360 in less than 2 years in 360:s strongest market (and the reason why it took so long has been the limited supply), so i hardly would call it "Wii+360" domination.
Besides, you just gave an answer why the 360 is selling by saying people will get 360 Arcades if they can't find Wiis.

If nobody is complaining, what's with all the fanboys ranting about "Wii is destroying gaming", while it clearly was someone else (considering the earlier dominant position in the market: Sony) who destroyed it.

I believe you pointed out yourself why PS2 was able to "kill" the competition, and i pointed out why this same thing will happen with Wii "killing" the competition.

And as Tuoyo pointed out, this generation isn't really different from the previous one.

@Dno: Your conclusion about the price was wrong, although how you made the basis was right.
So, PS2 sold well with "standard" price, Wii is selling even better with "standard" price, and PS3 sells badly with high price, so by making a conclusion, price effects in a way, that if something is expensive, it doesn't sell well. Not in a way that if something is standard priced, it sells good by default (just look at GC sales). And besides, PS3, which is more expensive, have been outselling 360 in USA for the whole year and in Europe since launch.