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hsrob on 30 May 2015
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Zod95 said:
hsrob said:

Storage medium has absolutely NOTHING to do with power of the machine,  although it certainly did impact the appearnce of N64 games due lack of texture storage and obviously in terms of music.

CPU has the power to process (processing capacity). GPU has the power to render (rendering capacity). Media format has the power to store (storage capacity). I would say that you have a very narrow definition of power if you don't include storage capacity on it but if you say that it has "absolutely nothing" to do with power then you just lack reasonability.

Even you admit that N64's texture detail was hindered by its limitations on storage capacity. You just contradict yourself.

 

hsrob said:

I don't think there is any reasonable person who thinks the PS1 was on par with the N64, one exceptional game proves the talent of the developers, not the power of the machine.

I think there is. Then what? Wanna come up with some solid arguments?

Developers' talent gets multiplied by machine power. There is no talent on Earth that could make a Mega Drive game looking better than any PS4 game. That's just impossible.

Funny that PS1 has games that are on par with any N64 game and WiiU doesn't has a single one at the level of the best PS4 and XOne games (graphics wise). Want more "exceptional" PS1 games? Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid 1, FIFA 2005, etc.

The difference between WiiU and PS4 is the difference of an entire generation. The difference between PS1 and N64 isn't. WiiU's graphics are much more similar to PS3 and X360 than to PS4 and XOne (they even share some of the games). Would you say the same thing about PS1 and SNES / Mega Drive? Or do they share the same games?

 

hsrob said:

See bolded, either you simply didn't game at that time or you are chosing to ignore a bunch of games.  I don't do list wars but seeing the present theme is proving a point with one game, Turok the Dinosaur Hunter is the first one that pops into my head. (but there are plenty of others)

...or you just don't pay attention to what I say. Turok the Dinosaur Hunter wasn't launched on Saturn. Try harder. I'm waiting for that "plenty of others".

 

hsrob said:

Having said that, I agree that N64 is the same gen as PS1 but then so are the WiiU and PS4.  Generation is and has always been defined by time.

Keep narrow-minded. Don't change one bit. You're on the right track... In the meanwhile, think about what would be Zeebo's generation. I'm waiting for an answer on that too.

You're mixing up the words power, capacity and capability, although related they're not the same. Again, like the word generation, you don't get to choose what the words actually mean. The ability to read CDs is a capability or feature that is largely independent of system power. CDs have storage capacity, not storage power. A PC without a DVD drive, isn't less powerful than one with, it's missing a feature. You have made up your own definition of power and said that anyone who disagrees with you is unreasonable, that's not a tenable argument.

As for whether a Megadrive game could look like a PS4, hyperbole that does a disservice to any point you might have actually had.

Continue defining words as you see fit and setting arbitrary conditions to support a position you've already decided upon. Keep doing that and you'll always be right.