Baryonyx said:
Zappykins said:
Landguy said:
Don't get me wrong, I have an XB1 and don't yet own a PS4. So, I am not some type of Sony fanboy. Clearly, the console business is shrinking this generation by a significant margin. The need/want for dedicated consoles is declining every day. Over the next 4 years, all of the devices that people will buy for other purposes will get more and more powerful. Will they be PS5 powerful? NO, they don't need to be for most people. Most people just enjoy playing games. For the hardcore gamers, there will be a PS5/Nintendo system. Next gen will probably sell only half or less of this generation. Consoles are already comodity items. THey make no money for the manufacturer when they are sold. They require people to buy many games and accessories along with subscription services to get ahead. If the userbase shrinks, there is no profit left. Someone has to go... MS has proven that they are changing their ways. Out with all of the closed systems and windows only apps. In with UNIVERSAL programs, such as Cortana, Office, Minecraft, MS Health/Band, and many others that they have announced. Windows will no longer be a requirement to get to MS products. Why waste time on a next gen console that can sell 40 million at the max? Instead, they will likely work with Sony to make the PS4/PS5 Windows 10 compatible somehow. Universal apps are the future of all software that is sold to the normal guy on the street.
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Do you realize they have alrady tried a common format? Microsoft will work with just about anyone, and they approached Sony about a common consol. But it was Sony that stopped them by refusing and saying 'we will destroy you.' Thus Microsoft came out with the original Xbox.
Do you also realize the HDDVD/Blu-ray war was also largely cause by Sony? ALL of the manufatures had agreed, except Sony, on a common format. Sony didn't want Microsoft and their video formats as part of it - which the others had made an agreement. (It wasn't AC-3, but something like that.) Thus the entire HDDVD/Blu-ray war could have been avoided.
Now it could happen - not saying it's impossible, just very unlikely - it's against its culture. Probably with something small like bringing Skype to the SP4/SP4Eye, but we haven't seen that yet.
I disagree, I think the Xbox is doing fine, it's the WiiU that's suffering (Do we have a launch 7th gen vs 8th gen hardware chart?) Both the Xbox One and the PS4 are supposed to be making profits on hardware right now - as they both were at launch. The bulk sales of a console always come later in a gen anyway - and by then, they are making a profit on hardware.
All companies will most likely need a big hardward update to do virtual/agumented reality. So that's coming whenever they decide.
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Sony never said *We will destroy you* when they declined Microsoft offer.
Sony simply declined because the last time they cooperated with another company in gaming, they got cheated out of it.
Sony felt they didn't need Microsoft. Microsoft tried leeching off someone elses succsess and when they got declined entry it was they who got mad.
They even hired another company to create the XB-Zero in case it failed. The only succsess the 360 had was that it launched a year earlier, cause PS3 outsold it yearly after 2005. I liked my 360 but that was the facts.
Maybe with the Ps5 Sony and Microsoft might make a deal, how that deal with work is uncertain. But i doubt it because as earlier stated, gaming becomes less and less profitable then what it used to be, cooperating with another company means divieded profits. Which is why sony refused to begin with.
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"Sony simply declined because the last time they cooperated with another company in gaming, they got cheated out of it."
Sony got cheated out of it? Wow, we are really looking at different information.
"The only succsess the 360 had was that it launched a year earlier, cause PS3 outsold it yearly after 2005. I liked my 360 but that was the facts."
Have you seen the 360 and the PS3 lined up together at launch? Clearly not, or you would know what you said isn't true.
Dude, take your lense off and look at the rest of the stuff I wrote and take a look at history.
Also, I would say that the biggest reason the 360 works because of developers liking it so much. Microsoft gave them great tools (which they should have again once DX 12 comes out.) True, it was arguable the most innovative console at launch - certainly the GPU was.
