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zorg1000 said:
Soundwave said:


If they want to sell more than 20 million home consoles ever again they probably do. Japan doesn't buy any consoles so they're out, almost all console sales are in the West, and it's kind of a long term dead end to try and sell game hardware to the Western audience with no Western games. 

I don't know honestly. Nintendo's in a tough spot, because they really I don't think can adequetely compete with Sony/MS, so I dunno. I think NX is going to be profitable for them, but they're going to expand more into where things like their non-traditional business lines -- mobile games, movie franchising, theme park tie-ins, etc. eventually makes more money for them than traditional gaming does. 

Kind of like how Marvel Comics branched out far beyond just comics or LEGO makes a lot of money these days outside of just selling toy blocks. That's kinda where I think Nintendo is headed. 

They have done OK with the 3DS in the West, but their handheld line is also suffering massive losses in the West and that erosion becomes more and more obvious every year. I don't know if they'll be able to match the 3DS' sales in the West next time out, 3DS still sorta benefitted from at least early on not having such a soldified mobile gaming landscape to compete against (holiday 2011 in particular was a good one of the 3DS in the West, but the wheels fell off after that). 


Well like I said, when talking about Nintendo u have to look at the company as a whole and not just one segment of it, Nintendo being able to sell over 40 million (over 50 million when all is said and done) units of hardware in the West without the need of the big western games is proof that they don't need those games.

Who cares if those divisions end up making more money for Nintendo than their tradition gaming division does? Are u implying that Nintendo is simply going to abandon that market just because other things are more profitable? As long as their gaming business is making money and they sell a bunch of hardware & software than they aren't leaving the business.

Diversifying and expanding is probably going to more beneficial than detrimental for the gaming business by increasing brand awareness through these other divisions along with Nintendo being able to take more risks with their gaming business because the company will no longer be 100% dependant on the success of gaming.

Assuming they can hold every single (or even most) of their 3DS base for the next cycle, sure. I'm not so sure however that it's so simple. 

A seperate gaming handheld is becoming more and more of a tougher sell I think. A lot of people just feel like they don't need it and truth be told, they're probably not wrong. Free/$1 friendly looking smartphone games chew up the down time most people have during the average day outside of the house, and kids take to tablets/phones like fish to water. 

Like this year will be the lowest worldwide shipment for Nintendo handhelds in something like 18 years (last year was the previous lowest in that time frame) even with a new 3DS revision. That can't be good. 

Can they can turn this around with the NX ... I'm not sure. This isn't so much a product issue (as in the 3DS and Vita were low quality products, they're both actually quite good devices), it's more of a lifestyle change, and traditional handhelds are on the wrong end of it.