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se7en7thre3 said:
I haven't had 3rd party "entitlement" since the GCN days, and that was b/c everything back then was on equal ground. When the PS exclusive GTA contract expired, and OG Xbox finally got it but Cube didn't, I was legit pissed.

But as long as Ninty stays a gen or 2 behind on HW power and features, I will never blame 3rd parties, Its like, after Nintendo got dumped by a certain fanbase during GC era, they just stopped trying (weaker hw etc). For wii U I'm still baffled how Nintendo didn't take advantage of the 1 yr headstart by having a real next gen console. After 2 straight gens of this weak hw bs, I think we can put to rest any dream of a grand Ninty return. The competitive SNES days are dunzo, faneto.

That's why us Fusion enthusiasts discuss theories that will help Nintendo fix some of their problems, without factoring in / practically 0 regard for major 3rd parties.

Well, as a "fusionist" myself, I always thought Nintendo should have invested during the Wii/DS days and bought more studios and expanded their workforce. During the lifespam of most Nintendo consoles, the majority of games are from Nintendo. Software sales alone allowed the N64 and theGC to be profitable. Nintendo can survive a gen with sales close to 60-80 million units (HH and HC). This gen, Nintendo has faced problems from all angles: The WiiU didn't sell nearly as expected, the mobile market is eating handhelds, rising costs and HD developing costs are making games less profitable...

Third parties are difficult to satisfy at this point, at least in my opinion. Big western developers aren't interested in Nintendo consoles because most of their games don't sell as well (military shooters in particular). If this is because they expect to sell PS360 numbers on the device and moderate sales are not interesting for them (GTA V not being on the WiiU when it's everywhere else), or the Nintendo crowd don't care about those genres, I don't know. One thing I don't beliebe it's power as an excuse. I firmly believe that, if power was one of the main problems, the WiiU would have gotten (and still get) all those crossgen games: Destiny, most Telltale games, GTA V, FarCry 4, Wolfenstein TNO... But they aren't coming. Wii didn't get AAA titles from western studios, but you can't say they didn't support the system, and the same with the DS. Also, western developers never were really big on the handheld market, so when mobile appeared, they quickly abandoned it.

Eastern developers are different. They have supported more the Nintendo systems, specially on handhelds. But with the rise of mobile gaming, they have found a way to sell more risking less. If the next Nintendo system is the Fusion, they will be way more supportive than the western ones, that will probably ignore Nintendo for the most part. The thing with those is that they need to advertise their games properly on the west. Bravely Default was a great success, while other JRPGs haven't sold that much.

Nintendo have to rely on their own strenght, they have to focus on selling their hardware first. They can't waste time chasing the first year third parties. Look at what happened with the U: everyone promised to support it, and then quickly abandoned it. They need to bring the hardware numbers first, then third partis will slowly come to it.

P.S. : Seriously, why hasn't T2 brought GTA V to the U? I can understand Minecraft not coming to Nintendo because Microsoft doesn't want to lose those "kid's first console" sales (Mario, Mickey and Minecraft would be a real threat in that regard), but GTA is everywhere. It would have sold enough to justify the cost of the port at least.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

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