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se7en7thre3 said:
I haven't had 3rd party "entitlement" since the GCN days, and that was b/c everything back then was on equal ground. When the PS exclusive GTA contract expired, and OG Xbox finally got it but Cube didn't, I was legit pissed.

But as long as Ninty stays a gen or 2 behind on HW power and features, I will never blame 3rd parties, Its like, after Nintendo got dumped by a certain fanbase during GC era, they just stopped trying (weaker hw etc). For wii U I'm still baffled how Nintendo didn't take advantage of the 1 yr headstart by having a real next gen console. After 2 straight gens of this weak hw bs, I think we can put to rest any dream of a grand Ninty return. The competitive SNES days are dunzo, faneto.

That's why us Fusion enthusiasts discuss theories that will help Nintendo fix some of their problems, without factoring in / practically 0 regard for major 3rd parties.

Third parties just don't need Nintendo. Now that there are two better alternatives for them in Sony and MS, Nintendo just isn't needed. 

Even during the GameCube days though I remember that GCN multi-plats would often sell the worst by a fair margin versus the PS2 and XBox versions even when Nintendo did things like get Mario characters into games like NBA Street and SSX and EA emphasied the GameCube logo in TV marketing for those ads, those games still tanked on the GameCube. 

Emily Rogers did a piece on it a while ago, but yeah basically I remember that, things like Prince of Persia and other multiplats all sold worse on the GameCube. 

The real issue is that Sony/MS took away the gamer who bought a lot of of third party games on the NES/SNES ... that gamer grew frustrated with Nintendo during the N64 days and jumped ship to Sony (and maybe subsequently MS), but the Nintendo audience that bought a lot of third party games was already on the Sony bandwagon by the time 2000/2001 rolled around and Nintendo's never really gotten them back. They've just gotten stuck with a core Nintendo fanbase that buys primarily Nintendo games on their Nintendo consoles.