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PwerlvlAmy said:
See this is the thing, most people who rag on Nintendo fans for not buying third party games, dont have a Nintendo system in the first place themselves so they cant see where Nintendo fans are coming from this current generation.

People tell Nintendo fans they should buy third party games and support third party developers,yet nearly every third party game that has been released on Wii U this generation has been gimped or missing features that should be in the game and charge full price for it and people expect Nintendo fans to buy the game just because. That doesn't make any sense.

So it leaves Nintendo fans in a weird situation, sure Nintendo fans need to buy third parties and support them to show that third parties should support Nintendo consoles,but at the same time,third parties dont even treat Nintendo users with the same respect that they do the other consoles, so it goes back to ''why should Nintendo fans support half assed efforts''

Weird situation indeed

Wrong assumption.

I have a Wii U and for the first 6 months of 2013 I more or less played exclusively on it. It was great at first but that was because I had a decent backlog (of about 10 games). The problem is once I cleared all my games, releases were few and far between. Nintendo wasnt releasing anything and neither were third parties.

At that point, I started to blame third parties because (a) they barely released any games and (b) the games they released were "unoptimised". But then, I realised that even games that are GPU limited, with low CPU usage (e.g Trine 2 and Bit. Trip.Runner) were barely running better than their 7th gen counterparts. Then I noticed that 7th gen ports had crappy framerates, a telltale sign of CPU limitations on PC gaming rigs. It couldnt be the GPU, since it was suppossed to be more powerful. After reading about the CPU the whole thing began to unravel, once the PS4 and X1s specs were announced I knew it was over.

The hardware, while stronger, was not strong enough to make a significant difference to 7th gen ports. See, even on PCs, unoptimised ports can be brute forced but even the best Wii U ports did not have a true generational leap in comparison to last gen systems.You cant expect developers to bend overbackwards to get a game that runs more or less for free on the PS4/X1 and PC to run on the Wii U. You can talk about scalability all day wrong but theres a big difference between 1 GB of shared RAM and 5GB or shared RAM. Theres a big difference between 3 PPC cores and 6 X86 cores.

Im a programmer by profession so I could and will never subscribe to the lazy devs argument, that simply isnt how it works. Throw in poor sales and poor promotion from Nintendo themselves it became clear that Nintendos entire 3rd party ecosystem is completely fucked up. I dont blame third parties, I dont blame the fans, I blame Nintendo. They act like they still control the industry when they dont. Its all right to look out for your interests but when you dont make ANY concessions for third parties you deserve to fail. Better yet, not even Nintendo cares about 3rd party sales. They just want their own games to sell and fans to gobble up Amiibos. Nothing wrong with that but they shouldnt be surprised no 3rd party is lining up to play by their rules.

As a Nintendo fan, demand more from Nintendo. More features, more hardware, freaking voice chat, analog triggers, fucking demand it. Its that simple. If they release another relatively underpowered console dont moan to 3rd party devs when they inevitably ignore it for the other 2 systems and PC.



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine