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cfin2987@gmail.com on 25 May 2015
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Zappykins said:
cfin2987@gmail.com said:
Zappykins said:

Welcome Ireland to the land of Equality!


You do understand that Ireland was the firs to vote on this in the world, therefore, I'm not sure you have the right to "welcome" them to the "land of equility" seeing as the country already has a great record in this regard and....again.....the first where the people were allowed to vote on the issue. Maybe when the US catches up, then we can welcome you? Instead they leave it up to some old judge in the US to decide whats best for the people in a social matter. Then the likes of it being illegal in many US states for inter racial marriage until 1967, that would be just another example of how the US can't really welcome someone into this land you speak of, when clearly they are so far outside of said land, that's its not even funny.

So please, in future, think before patronizing or speaking down.

Hey, you are taking this way too personally.  I'm not putting anyone down.  The land Ireland stands on is now free from sexual marraige discriminizatoin.

Remember wasn' t until 1993 that it homosexuality was decriminalized. That's not very long ago at all.  That's a whole lot of progress for the people of Ireland.

All of the changes in the USA have come from grass roots groups, many of which I have help run and found for that 28 years.  Do you really think it would have won if not for the efforts and changes in the States and other Countrys the past 14 years?  Many of the changes have also come from the legistaltion system and not judges.  And it would have come much sooner if Arnold Schwarzenegger wouldn't have been such a coward and go back on his promises when he ran for Govenator.

Same Sex marriage is legal Federally in the USA.  So it must be legal in all the state.  Currently, 7 states are still fighting it, but those would have probably still not allow interracial marriage or women voting if they weren't forced.  It's happened, and may finally be over by the end of this year.

But honestly, I think voting on civil rights is not a good thing to do.  They are fundamental civil rights which should not be up to the whim of the majority.   But as I understand, the only way Ireland could make this change.

And yet, in the US some states never legalized being gay or having a bi racial marriage. The courts had to force them to accept it. The whole "1993" thing is also nonsense. People were gay, that was that. The law just kind of stucvk around until Norris brought it up. Nobody was ever prosecuted and the antiquated law was just overlooked.

The vote was a good idea because it gave the majority a chance to stand up for the minority. IF they failed, then the courts would handle it. Would you prefer like in the US how the courts tell society how to live? It was in the constitution. People voted to change that. They didn't vote on civil rights. The people can only change the constitution. And to be honest, what you think doesn't matter. You live in a country riddled with racism, hate and war. Please try not to tell other people how their countries are flawed.

 

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAND, gay people already had equality. They could legally have a union. It's just that yonks ago, the constitution defined marriage as being between a man and a woman. LEGALLY.