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reggin_bolas on 12 May 2015
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BMaker11 said:
reggin_bolas said:

Many NDEs share the same experiences. There is usually a tunnel, a bright light at the end, relatives or some familiar entity greeting you, life review, etc. Also your refution doesn't take into account Seth meta-physics which explains that who you see in your NDE depends on your faith system because all reality is created. So if you expect to see something you most likely will. At the end of this, there is always some kind of objective experience and afterlife. 

I am not familiar with "Seth meta-physics" but what you described seems to be exactly what I was saying: if you already believed something, that will be what you see when you have a NDE. Maybe I'm confused at the logic you're using but to say I didn't take this into account means that it's something I didn't consider and it is a possible refutation of my argument. But you just pretty much repeated exactly what I said.

Life review aka "your life flashing before your eyes" and seeing relatives/friends, that may be an objective experience insofar as everyone who's had a NDE may see these things, but it is of subjective material i.e. your life and your family/friends. It is never objective content. As in, it's not something somebody else would see or at the very least, something somebody else would be able to describe in exactly the same way. We can both look at an iPhone, for example, a have the same conclusion: a rectangular device with a touch screen that's used to make phone calls. But if two people who had NDEs were asked to describe "the kingdom of heaven", there'd be two vastly different answers about that. If they were Christians, sure, they'd both say they "saw" Jesus, but one would say heaven was an endless cloud city where everyone stood in reverence to God, for example, while the other would say there were palaces for each of God's children and the biggest palace was God's (I actually didn't just make these up. They are descriptions of separate NDE accounts that I've read about).  But then, those both would be contradicted by a Muslim having a "life review", seeing his family and friends.....then seeing Mohammed and 72 virgins.

Because you use it as a basis for refuting the phenemon based on reliability. Seth is a channeled entity which says that all reality is created, because the soul is a creator, it follows it will create it's post-death ascension (parts of it at least). This also resonates with Hermes who postulated that the universe is mental. The universe is MIND. 

You conflate the above as evidence there is no afterlife. There is, it's just accounts of it will sometimes vary due to these aforementioned principles.