DonFerrari on 26 April 2015
Samus Aran said:
potato_hamster said:
Well see here's where you and I differ. You geninely believe Nintendo has your family's best interest at heart. Based on my experience working with them to develop games for the Wii, DS, and 3DS, I have to disagree. However, Nintendo is first and foremost out there to make money. Period.
Nintendo is super super strict on the image they portray, this is true, but that's not always been the case, and you don't have to look too far back. Nintendo made a play very early in the life of the Wii-U to get the attention of "more mature" audiences. I remember when I bought my kid to the video game store, and they saw the Zombi-U bundle. They had themselves a good cry from the image of the zombie guard. They had no interest in anything to do with the Wii U after that. The christmas list changed from Wii U to PS4, which suited me just fine. Unfortunately for Nintendo, the play backfired. they've shown that the "more hardcore demographic" has all but abandoned them based on the sales of Zombi-U, Watch Dogs, and Bayonetta 2 amongst others. Third party research has shown that practically the only people who buy the Wii U are families, and hardcore Nintendo fans. That's the main reason why you don't see "Wii-U" on the list of Nintendo platforms I've worked on. There's practially no money in it if you're not making family oriented games with Nintendo signing your pay checks.
I'm not sure where you get off posting that I'm some sort of anti-Nintendo troll that wants Nintendo to change. I've said nothing of the sort. My main point has been this since the beginning: Nintendo is no better or worse than Sony or Microsoft. They aren't more moral. They aren't more ethical. All three of the console manufacurers are out there to make money. Sony and MS are more concerns with getting their consoles in as many homes as possible, and Nintendo targets families for its sales. It's two sides of the same coin. Most of what I've done is here point out the hypocrisy of Nintendo-apoligists that are very quick to bash the likes of EA and Activision for one thing, and just as quick to defend Nintendo when Nintendo goes and does more or less the exact same thing. That's it. My problem with Nintendo is not with the company. Nintendo is going to do its own thing and be successful for a long time. My biggest problem is its with its most hardcore fans who constantly project an image of believing that Nitnendo does almost nothing wrong, its competitors do almost nothing as well as Nintendo does, and that Nintendo deserves more respect than any other video game company.
That's simply is not the case.
They are no better. they are no worse.
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Why don't I buy that? ;)
Your arguments don't make much sense either. Watch Dogs was released 6 months later with no added gamepad functionality (in a hacking game for crying out loud). It had zero advertisement as well and wasn't any better than the PS3/XBOX360 versions. Of course it failed...
One third party Wii U game that released at the same time as the PS3 and XBOX360 versions, Rayman Legends, sold better than the XBOX360 version and only slightly lower than the PS3 version despite having a much smaller userbase. And this game was supposed to be an exclusive, but was later delayed for a year just so it could release at the same time as the PS3 and XBOX360 versions. I can imagine a lot of pissed of Nintendo fans didn't buy the game because of this.
Bayonetta is a niche franchise and Bayonetta 2 is selling similar numbers compared to the XBOX360 version of the first Bayonetta. And yes, the Wii U has a much smaller userbase and unlike the original Bayonetta the sequel is still selling at full price. The first Bayonetta hit the bargain bin very fast...
And please tell me what DS, Wii and 3DS games you have worked on.
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So many games had X360 exclusive deal for 6 months or 1 year and some when released had additional content and a lot didn't... guess what? They haven't sold that bad. Nintendo fans will find excuses to say why it's other people fault while Nintendo done everything perfectly.