Without Playstation, would the industry be in another crisis?

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padib said:

S.T.A.G.E. said:

Thats a cop out. If Nintendo would've made a CD based console they still would've held back third parties and hammered Sega into the ground. Historically Sega was on a downward spiral. The Genesis was the peak of Segas time and that was while Nintendo was keeping developers from them. Sega of America was specifically incompetent and a very big part of why Sega fell. Sega as it stands today has only been credited with what Platinum Games makes since the arcade era died off. That was essentially their life support until they soured their relationship with third parties by rushing the Sega Saturn and pissing off third parties.

Sony actually made life easier for third parties. Third parties sell the most consoles due to their content so they should have a place at the table, not groveling at Nintendos feet and sure as hell not waiting on Sega because they could never catch up to Nintendo. Sony provided the media, they provided the funding and made it easier for partnerships to be accomplished and thats why the mass exodus of third party came to them.  I used to be on Nintendos side until I actually did the research. I still love their product, but Nintendo has issues and Sega not even being able to function as a third party just shows how bad they suck at managing a brand. Now they can barely fund console games anymore and no one did that to them. No one forced them to be so niche.

Everyone does their research. There's nothing you're saying that I'm not aware of. You're just pointing out Nintendo's weaknesses which would have obviously fixed themselves over time. Nintendo holding an iron fist over 3rd parties could only last so long.

However what Nintendo did bring to the market is something Sony and Microsoft could not dream of offering: a Nintendo influence. In the days where Nintendo was at the helm, we saw the greatest classics come to life, as 3rd parties strived to compete with Nintendo 1st party IPs. Nowadays, 3rd parties have a cop-out of their own: mega-blockbusters that will never be remembered as classics.

Just speaking of cop-outs.

We saw great classics come to life in every generation. Thats what happens. With Sony it happened exponetially to Nintendo. Great names like Metal Gear and Castlevania found a new home on Playstation. Platformers had a secondary brand where they didnt have to compete with Nintendo first party and still thrive. 

Nintendo's influence if anyone has studied it is esstentially a cabron copy of the disney model, thats all. They know that kids will always be around and try to make their product around the influence of children. Sony realized that those generations are growing up hence why some called it the graduating console in the media. Microsoft felt Sony's influence so they joined in on the fight because they knew Sony had taken gaming popularity to the next level. They had relationships with third party in a positive way that Nintendo could not even fathom having because of how crazy they are about their own first party. This is why when Sony came into power the mass exodus occured.

Why did Nintendo not further pursue the CD? Was it truly piracy? Doubt it. They were sour over the deal when it was in fact Sony who was walked out on. Microsoft was smart...they didnt hide from the fact that Sony was the most influential format developer of the 90's. If Sony penetrated the mass audiences with their media Microsoft follow. Nintendo chose to fight it and suffered for it. If their deal hadn't gone sour with Sony Nintendo would've backed Sony created CD's. 

Furthermore, Sony created business and their ten year plan by making new media that wouldn't otherwise be accessible to people, attainable by virtue of selling consoles at a loss and watching the media grow both affecting format sales and console sales simultaneously over a decade.

Sony screwed up the PS3 launch, but they quickly rose to the occasion and caught up to the Xbox 360 who basically used their own gameplan against them with third parties. Microsoft turned their launch around by humbling themselves and listening to fans. Why is Nintendo incapable of such flexibility?