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padib said:
foxtail said:
I think if there was no Playstation and no Sony/Nintendo partnership in its inception, that a Nintendo CD system would exist today.
 

Nintendo was planning on having a CD based system after the SNES and saw the future advantages of CD technology.

There were 3 major players when it came to optical disc based drives back then, i.e. Philips, Sony and Panasonic.

 

If Sony was out of the picture and Nintendo needed a partner, they would likely be choosing between Philips and Panasonic.

 
In the end Nintendo did partner with Panasonic to produce its disc drives and proprietary discs for the Gamecube, Wii and Wii U.
 

The final design of Playstation controller was also born from SNES design, looking at Sony's initial controller designs they were way different.
 

If Nintendo didn't feel the need to differentiate itself from the Playstation controller, its own cotroller would've been an evolution of the SNES controller.

 
Instead Nintendo came up with controller that was radically different from SNES design, especially in how you held it and how spread out it was.
 
Overall if there was no Playstation, Nintendo's natural trajectory and evolution would be much different, but history is not what was - it's what is.

My post was based on that information, and I'm glad you made a complete post describing more elaborately what I concluded from the same data.

Hats off.

Thats a cop out. If Nintendo would've made a CD based console they still would've held back third parties and hammered Sega into the ground. Historically Sega was on a downward spiral. The Genesis was the peak of Segas time and that was while Nintendo was keeping developers from them. Sega of America was specifically incompetent and a very big part of why Sega fell. Sega as it stands today has only been credited with what Platinum Games makes since the arcade era died off. That was essentially their life support until they soured their relationship with third parties by rushing the Sega Saturn and pissing off third parties.

Sony actually made life easier for third parties. Third parties sell the most consoles due to their content so they should have a place at the table, not groveling at Nintendos feet and sure as hell not waiting on Sega because they could never catch up to Nintendo. Sony provided the media, they provided the funding and made it easier for partnerships to be accomplished and thats why the mass exodus of third party came to them.  I used to be on Nintendos side until I actually did the research. I still love their product, but Nintendo has issues and Sega not even being able to function as a third party just shows how bad they suck at managing a brand. Now they can barely fund console games anymore and no one did that to them. No one forced them to be so niche.