Observation Shows Overwhelming Evidence for a Creator

[Dgc1808]

o_O.Q said:

Dgc1808 said:

"when there's less happiness you go closer to sadness" - No. A Non-happy person isn't necessarily a sad one.

"when there's less good there's more bad " - No. Because of obious. 

I can  on with that but my point originally was that this "law is opposites" wasn't clearly explained/defined or just flawed. A person completely void of joy isn't a sad person. They're just not happy. This point is irrelevent now because what I want to talk about this: 

"yes laws, rules etc are generally descriptive since they describe conditions that processes function by that should be obvious" and "complex laws are generally creations coming from intelligence"

Are these "laws" just the result of an intelligence attempting to describe observations, or are they caused by an intelligence? If you're post was making no attempt to ascert causation (which is what I assumed you were trying to do), then your title makes no sense. You'd have to point out how some intelligence caused these "laws" to take the forms that they do, not just how some intelligence describes or interprets them. At the moment, it just seems like you're pointing things out and saying an intelligence did it with no explanation as to how we would know this. 

"A person completely void of joy isn't a sad person. They're just not happy."

well they are neutral balanced on the equilibrium point between the two

the line there in the middle means neutral or equilibrium

". You'd have to point out how some intelligence caused these "laws" to take the forms that they do"

well my conclusion is based on the fact that we as humans pride ourselves on being above animals because of our capacity to use our intelligence to come up with constructs

as i said earlier we wouldn't expect to find any significant answers to anything by talking to animals or rocks or putting our head to the ground and hoping the earth whispers back or whatever because we unlike the animals and inanimate objects around us have intelligence 

therefore we expect that mathematical constructs for example are exclusive to entities that exhibit intelligence otherwise you'd have me believe that rocks have more intellectual capacity than humans as they have been able to do what we will never be able to acheive with regards to creating the universe

afterall if there is no intelligence above us then it would have be the matter of the universe itself that caused it to form as it did meaning that rocks are smarter than humans

"well they are neutral balanced on the equilibrium point between the two"

This doesn't work with the temperature example (and a lot of other things) because there's no discernible max or true neutral (0 on any temperature scale is completely arbitrary). Bring in the topic of mixed emotions which would suggest that  sorrow is not absense joy and the whole ascertions falls apart.

"afterall if there is no intelligence above us then it would have be the matter of the universe itself that caused it to form as it did meaning that rocks are smarter than humans"

A creator exists or the universe created itself, is basically what you're saying here? I have a hard time believing you haven't heard the flaws of this argument before. I'm kinda thinking there's some ill-intent behind this thread. I'm done here.