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nuckles87 on 07 April 2015
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ToraTiger said:
nuckles87 said:

You say "unfitting Japanese style" and yet, as Sundin pointed out, you've yet to demonstrate there is any kind of "unfitting Japanese style".

Yeah, this is why I asked that question in particular. You keep saying "trope this" and "cliché that", but your examples....aren't very convincing.

What tropes you do mention that are actually in the game are hardly specific to anime. And even the ones that aren't, I'm sure I've seen elsewhere in western media.

I'm kinda disappointed you more or less ignored the details of Sundin's response in favor of just repeating yourself.



Of course they can be found in western media.  

What I'm trying to say.  Metroid = Western, in style, tone and art.  Was even inspired off of a western movie. 

Metroid Other M = Eastern, probably due to the developer being a highly japanese'y company.  The typical emotional weeping strong heroine is played out in anime and nothing like people thought samus would be like given all the previous games.

 

I thought about argueing this point, but I've decided that you continue to remain too vague for me to really offer any kind of counterargument. So instead I'm going to ask more questions:

How exactly is the "emotional weeping strong heroine" played out in anime in particular? I mean, I know the trope exists, but again, this is a universal trope. Give me a nice, long, detailed list of examples to back up your point, because at the moment you are not selling me on it at all. I've seen plenty of anime with strong female heroines, but I've not noticed an overabundance of them being overly emotional and weepy. At worst, their human. So yeah, sell me on it.

Also, when exactly did Samus exhibit that trope? I remember one moment where she suffered from momentary PTSD against Ridley. It was out of character, sure, but she wasn't balling over and weeping. She froze and had a flashback. Had this been her first encounter with Ridley rather than her..fifth I think, I'd argue it's simply a human reaction to being exposed to some horrible thing that left deep scars. Again, hardly an anime trope, especially since it's a thing actual, real people deal with. The PTSD scene would have actually worked pretty well had Other-M been an origin story, rather than a midquel between Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion.